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Old 09-15-2016, 12:04 PM   #1
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Resources for renting land or place to park

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I'm an Adventure Advisor (salesman) for Bay Area Airstream in Northern California. With the tiny house movement in full swing we get a lot of people asking about land for rent or space next to a home or anywhere they can park their Airstream. Does anybody have any resources other than Craigslist to find long term living parking?

I have a young couple from Marin County currently looking and not having much luck so far. RV parks are very expensive around here, so they prefer a private land or home owner.

Thanks in advance for your help!

- David
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Old 09-15-2016, 12:13 PM   #2
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I would think that zoning is gonna be the biggest obstacle. I'd talk with some of the ciity planning and zoning departments to see what they know.
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Old 09-15-2016, 04:02 PM   #3
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Welcome to the forum David! Always good to have someone in the industry associated with an AS dealer.

There have been some other threads raising similar issues. I will look for some links FYI. Ditto to drboyd about zoning in most suburban areas being the main problem. Here are some possible threads with leads:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f314...eam-98483.html
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f314...al-149306.html
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f462...and-73264.html
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f314...ots-33174.html
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f459...ons-47242.html
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f314...er-115340.html
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f314...ccd-39344.html


Also you could look at the Full-timing sub-forums' list of threads:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f314/
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f459/

Good luck!

Peter

PS -- David are you getting the new Basecamp demo model in soon? Curious if you have any feedback on the issues being raised in this thread:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f404...ng-156584.html

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Old 09-15-2016, 05:35 PM   #5
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Yeah, been seriously thinking about finding a real estate agent that deals in land. This has been such a popular idea because of the "Tiny House" TV shows, especially in the Bay Area where housing prices have become ridiculous.


Thanks for the links OTRA15, I will check those out.

drboyd, I agree but first we need to know where to even begin. Was looking for resources that might list land rentals, then can look into city ordinances once a location is scouted.
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PS -- David are you getting the new Basecamp demo model in soon? Curious if you have any feedback on the issues being raised in this thread:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f404...ng-156584.html

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Peter, we don't have the Basecamp yet, should be any day now. I'll hold off on talking about any "issues" until I can see it myself. I can tell you we have had a HUGE amount of interest and taken quite a few deposits on pre-orders already. I'll chime in once we have one to show.

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drboyd, I agree but first we need to know where to even begin. Was looking for resources that might list land rentals, then can look into city ordinances once a location is scouted.
You're doing it backwards. You need to determine which zoning in the chosen county will allow the use that you are suggesting, then restrict your searches to those locations. You'll likely have some work to do to contact all the AHJ (authorities having jurisdiction) to determine which zones permit RV use. Once you find a property that has the necessary zoning, you'll then need to build the infrastructure if none exists. This is why RV parks aren't cheap; there are land costs, taxes and infrastructure costs (water, sanitary, electric, gas, etc.). Good luck.
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AirDavid, I'm moving to California for a year.

Can I live in my camper... in your yard? I don't want to pay very much. I'll need to be close to your house so I can hook up to your sewer, and water, and electric. Most likely, your neighbors won't mind very much. If they report you, you might have to declare the income when you file, but you can write off the finders fee. Most likely, your insurance company won't find out, and charge you extra, ya know, in case I get hurt on your property and sue you. If you are not interested, is there a lot next to you that's for sale? Maybe I could buy it and live there…in my camper.

See what your up against? Then there is the zoning issues. ( you can research that because I'm too lazy get into that…but I'll give you two. The town I live in doesn't allow clothes lines, The county where my country home is, doesn't allow you to live in a trailer that is shorter than 50 feet )

Just thinking that most folks that can afford a really nice location, with pretty views, won't need the income, or want to give up their privacy.

Folks that would be willing to give up their privacy, because they need a few extra bucks, might not have a very desirable location to camp long term.

Remember all those annoying cliches? There are no free lunches, You reap what you sew, You get what you pay for

I'm sure you could find some nice places, but they might be in the middle of nowhere, hopefully not next to a meth lab, or a pig farm.

Hope you got a chuckle, and aren't offended by obnoxious sarcasm ha ha.
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That was some fine obnoxious sarcasm! And informative too. 😀
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Thanks David, looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the Basecamp thread if you wish. Apologies for the recent sarcasm, I hope your skin is not thin. mandolindave's underlying concerns are worth exploring with your customers, although his tone could have been a little more supportive of your goodhearted inquiries IMO.

I do imagine that there is a rural plot someplace which would fit the bill. How about placing a Craig's List ad for what they want? You never know, but dealing with the volume of non-productive leads, spam, scams, etc., may be too much to bear. One of the links I posted yesterday was for a stationary AS in Northern CA, so that thread may resonate here. Link to follow on edit:

Edit -- http://www.airforums.com/forums/f314...eam-98483.html

I would suggest recommending that the couple focus on where they would like to live first, and then dive into the zoning and land use regulations next. Way north of Santa Rosa is my guess, with Marin, Sonoma, and Napa counties being unlikely candidates for an easy find, again IMO.

Good luck!

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Peter, we don't have the Basecamp yet, should be any day now. I'll hold off on talking about any "issues" until I can see it myself. I can tell you we have had a HUGE amount of interest and taken quite a few deposits on pre-orders already. I'll chime in once we have one to show.

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The tiny house thing is resurrecting the reason zoning started.
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