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Old 09-02-2009, 04:03 PM   #15
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I wouldn't lump all SOBs into the same "crap" bucket! As 85MH325 mentioned, there are some quality units out there, but Jayco just isn't one of them!

Also, if I were a marketing head, there is NO WAY I would want my potential customers seeing such a fast past (read as shoddy craftsmanship) assembly line. Were a majority of those workers Amish? Didn't know that they could take caffeine or other "stimulant" drugs.... Slow down brother!
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Old 09-02-2009, 04:17 PM   #16
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Old 09-02-2009, 05:06 PM   #17
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Old 09-02-2009, 05:56 PM   #18
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I have owned a Jayco 5th wheel since 2003. It is now going on 21 years old.
It must be new math... I have a dog born in 2006 that is also going on 21 years old...
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Old 09-02-2009, 07:16 PM   #19
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Easy there, big fella... I chose an SOB in '06 after twenty years of Airstreams. My SOB is every bit the quality of Airstream, won't dent in a hailstorm, has every bit the longevity of an Airstream, is a true four seasons coach, and doesn't have filiform corrosion issues. And, I paid about half for it new than the comparable A/S 25'.

Not all of 'em are junk.

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If it is Big Foot then you are correct, a great design and durable is the operative word. Have they survived the storm? I heard trouble was brewing for them.
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Old 09-02-2009, 08:23 PM   #20
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Easy there, big fella... I chose an SOB in '06 after twenty years of Airstreams. My SOB is every bit the quality of Airstream, won't dent in a hailstorm, has every bit the longevity of an Airstream, is a true four seasons coach, and doesn't have filiform corrosion issues. And, I paid about half for it new than the comparable A/S 25'.

Not all of 'em are junk.

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Old 09-02-2009, 09:29 PM   #21
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If it is Big Foot then you are correct, a great design and durable is the operative word. Have they survived the storm? I heard trouble was brewing for them.
No, unfortunately, they are now gone... another victim of bank panic and horrible exchange rates. My poor Bigfoot is now an orphan...



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Old 09-02-2009, 09:55 PM   #22
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No, unfortunately, they are now gone... another victim of bank panic and horrible exchange rates. My poor Bigfoot is now an orphan...

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Roger...on the BF web site they have a note that the assets were purchased out of bankruptcy in Jan 2009 and the new "owners" are trying to sell the assets to someone that wants to "re-start". Probably won't go anywhere...but you may want to look Tom R in Two Harbors
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Old 09-02-2009, 09:59 PM   #23
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I think like Dakota's dad......whatever it takes to get those people out there and get the kids out doing something besides sitting in front of the tv with the xbox. Some of those SOB's are beautiful....even though I don't want one. I get to keep my feet planted though, my dad has a big 5ver I get to work on all the time! I'll be at his house saturday morning for the next round....
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Old 09-03-2009, 12:32 PM   #24
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Our Jayco is still in great shape after many miles and 6 camping seasons. It cost a fraction of what I similar sized AS would cost. Yep, I hope to have an AS sometime soon, but I will not knock an SOB either. They offer a lot of value to families that want to spend time together camping. If we had to depend on AS for that, well, most folks would have to stay home as they could not afford it. Also, from what I read on here. AS trailers have more than their share of problems and shoddy workmanship. Heck they are made my Thor who's rep in the SOB world is somewhat less than stellar.

BTW, that is a bummer about Bigfoot, them seemed to build a nice Rig. I also like Arctic Fox trailers and would likely go that route if I was to stay in the SOB world. However, I have a rather strong Airstream itch that I need to scratch (similar to the diesel itch that a scratched a few years ago!).
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Old 09-03-2009, 01:48 PM   #25
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Those guys in the video were flat moving.
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The corners on other brands give more
head-room and vertical storage. It is the
corners that seem to be their undoing also.
Those exterior corners!
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could be converted to an RV....been thinking
about it a while now....the wife told me
"you are NOT getting a school bus".
A school bus has rounded corners and uses
some serious rivets. They sorta have airstream
qualities. Parts would be easy to come by.
The view would be awesome...from the inside.
Would you dislike me if I pulled up and parked a school bus
next to your beautiful Airstream?
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Old 09-03-2009, 02:37 PM   #26
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I'm amazed 6 hrs and out the door. Last schedule (last yrs Tour) I think Airstream was at about 13 or 14 a week. I'm so fortunate,my father had all SOB's,he got along just fine. For him and my mom its was all about campin. That's what it should be about,campin and having fun.
I watched both of the above videos, neither are what my wife and I watched that made up our mind on what brand we wanted to purchase. I think it was a 1/2 hr video at least and I think it was on a PBS channel and it was much more in depth and more detail.
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Old 09-03-2009, 04:59 PM   #27
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We had a '89 Coleman pop-up before the AS, and I thought it was very well engineered and constructed, for what it was. It had a space-saving shower in it, which is what gave me the idea to do something similar when I remodeled the AS. Those pop-ups have a lot of clever ideas in them, too bad they're not bear-proof.
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Old 09-03-2009, 05:08 PM   #28
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Do people restore other brands the way they do Airstreams?

From the construction video I've seen, the "SOBs" look to me like they're built to be used for 7-10 years, then basically tossed in the trash. Airstream's construction allows renovation, so there's no reason an Airstream couldn't be on the road for decades. Just my opinion, take it or leave it.
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