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Old 07-19-2005, 09:42 PM   #15
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john hd -- then what is this? Is the current flowing to the left or the right??
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Old 07-19-2005, 09:50 PM   #16
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I have to admit that I knew John would have the answer - no kidding!

The back does unscrew. I sat and looked at the thing for twenty minutes trying to figure out what it might be and thought it might be something for powerline work...

Thanks for the super sleuth work!
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good one bob!

x ray,

i'm looking for a web page to better describe it operation but haven't had much luck. the tyco electronics web page has a pdf file for the operation of it.

simply put, you put a shotgun shell into the back of it and it fires a wedge into a "C" shaped connector.

it is fired by striking the back of it with a hammer.

it is a handy tool, and makes the best heavy duty electrical connections in the industry. they never fail. period.

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Old 07-19-2005, 10:29 PM   #18
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I have to admit that I knew John would have the answer - no kidding!

The back does unscrew. I sat and looked at the thing for twenty minutes trying to figure out what it might be and thought it might be something for powerline work...

Thanks for the super sleuth work!
Yep I did to.

It looks similar to a Coax Crimping tool Not the little stuff your use but the 1.5 inch stuff used at Cell towers.

Tyco is just buying up everything aren't they John?

Nearly all our UPS battery's at the Switches and Cells are not provided by Tyco in my Business. I have about twenty five 2250lb Tyco batteries sitting on the floor that I will send off this week to get installed.

The Tyco guy has a similar tool. I'll ask him to let me take a picture if he comes in this week.

He's replacing some of these batteries and adding another row.

That over head rack is 10ft tall to give you some scale. That rack of batteries weights 276,000lbs
Some of the cables coming off the batteries and I have big hands in the second picture.
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betcha can't carry it on an aero plane!

man, so that things got a firing cap inside the size of 20g?

seems it might be a bit dangerous left lying around.

any warning lable on it?

how hard is it to fire? just it the end with a hammer? oh my!

found some blasting caps and dynomite at a rail line construction site when i was about 12......kept them in my special hiding place for a few weeks till i finally turned them in at school to my science teacher.........sure could do that these days! i'd have been expelled for sure as a young bomber!@

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you found what is called an ampact gun.

it is used by linemen like myself to install power line connectors. if you unscrew the back of it you will find a plastic 20 gauge shot gun shell in the back of it.

it uses 4 different color shells to make the connection, white red blue or yellow.

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Having never used one, I was trying to figure out how does that discharge or vent the gas?
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Is it worth anything?
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i'm looking for a web page to better describe it operation but haven't had much luck. the tyco electronics web page has a pdf file for the operation of it.
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There'a a good illustration and description here:
http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/T...%5EPN~602046-2

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go run down to the local power company and ask if anyone is missing one, they will be glad to get it back.
I'd say that's an excellent suggestion, john. It looks like this could be a very dangerous tool in the wrong hands.
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Is it worth anything?
i'm sure it is worth some bucks, however they are leased to the power company. we have hundreds if not thousands of them on our property, i have never heard of anyone saying how much they cost.

i would venture to guess they are gratis as long as we use amp connectors!

you would not believe the combinations abailable with amp connectors, you can connect wire that is as big as your wrist down to #4 or #6 awg!

they are to line work what the automatic transmission was to the automotive world. major improvement in productivity.

53 fc, the gas is vented out of the rear cap through 2 holes. if they are plugged you get the full report of the shell scaring everyone in the area!

i won't tell you guys what we do with the shells and a common lag screw when we get bored at work!

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John is correct. It is an old style inpact gun used for crimping large wire connectors. I have seen them in use and they do a really great job. Today they use adjustable battery powered electric crimpers. You can get hydraulic units but they are used mainly for industrial bench type work.
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we still use them quite a bit, no one has come up with a better connector for doing hot work by hand. with the amp connector you can pick the load up with the "C" shaped part then install the wedge. there is a little bit of arcing until the shell is fired.

i'm not a big fan of crimped connections for hot work, they need to be installed with a bypass jumper that can handle the load until you get it crimped.

we have a newer tool for compression connectors that is called a Y45 tool that is hydralic and runs off the tool circuit on our trucks. it is rated at 100 tons of compression. at three feet long and around 70 lbs it is not something i use up in the air near energized lines, it is great for underground work that is deenergized. it will crimp connectors onto 1000kcm cable with ease.

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53 fc, the gas is vented out of the rear cap through 2 holes. if they are plugged you get the full report of the shell scaring everyone in the area!

i won't tell you guys what we do with the shells and a common lag screw when we get bored at work!
Thanks...couldn't tell from just looking at the picture..
Hmmm....lmao, I can just imagine`!
Do we need to "screen" you at future rallies???
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