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Old 05-31-2017, 02:40 PM   #29
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Great Dealer

We, too, had a great experience with Patrick at Colonial. We started by watching his videos on YouTube, then exchanged calls & emails. We flew there to look at the one we wanted (23D) because no one else had one! Bought it on the spot. They stored it a couple of months at no charge until we could pick up. Oh, we live in Georgia. Price was also competitive.
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Old 05-31-2017, 02:43 PM   #30
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Do not buy one of these trailers sight unseen !!!

There are a lot of subtle differences between this and that layout. Until you see how you (and the rest of your crew) fit, price simply does not matter. A trailer that you grow to hate in the first week (because you bump into *that* thing ...) is not a good deal. In order to make them manageable on the road, compromises are made in the size / space department.

It's nice to think that with all the video footage you *know* what is what. I'll admit it does help compared to 20 years ago. Seeing stuff through a super wide angle camera (which everybody uses) is not perfect. It gives you a lot of information. It may not give you the best idea of how you will fit.

Find a dealer who has a range of product on their lot. Plan to spend a day or two in this one and that one. Does the eating area seating work for you? Can you function in the kitchen area? Is the sleeping arrangement ok with all of you? Is the shower and toilet going to do the job? Is there enough room for this and that? ....

Without getting into (unknowable) details, it is tough to know what the exact markup is on this or that trailer. Just as with cars, there are a lot of factors. My experience with Colonial was that they were very competitive. Compared to Texas, they are a short drive from here. That made our decision a bit easier. One of the trailers we looked at did ship out to Texas the day we were there. Airstream shopping can be a bit crazy.

We could have bought ours closer to home and used a dealer who has very little inventory. We would have not been able to see the trailer we bought. The trailer we picked from the videos was not the one we eventually decided on.

Would we have worked tings out without seeing either the one we bought or the other one? (probably not) Would another dealer have been as competitive? (probably not) Would their service guys have been as good? (maybe) Would a one hour drive for service have been a lot better than a three hour drive? (we'll see) Is a "wait until fall" order for a trailer ok? (not much fun with our season up here) For us the choice made sense.

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Old 05-31-2017, 04:52 PM   #31
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20% off is real, you can even do better depending on model.

We purchased a 23D in Dec 2017. We decided on the model, then I called several dealerships, including NJ, OH, MT, UT. I,live in Denver and wanted to use the local dealer for ease of pickup and future warranty service.

However, they were NOT the lowest quote by far. After I had several hard quotes, I spoke with the local Denver dealer, and told them if they matched the low price I would buy from them. They matched it, and I bought local.

Again, it's very specific on model, inventory, pre-placed orders, etc. I had a friend here recently purchase from Colonial, as the local dealer couldn't price match because of inventory issues.

So shop around and don't be afraid to ask for what you want, the worst they can do is say no.

Also, you can have them shipped or driven to you from Ohio or NJ, from NJ to Denver the cost was around 2K. At one point NJ was so low that even with that cost, it was the best deal....

I also highly reccomend that you get in and walk around and feel out the size before you buy. It's way different than any other RV and tough to tell just from the floor plan.
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Old 05-31-2017, 09:33 PM   #32
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Short and sweet: If there is any way you can buy from your local dealer, do that. Over the next couple of years, as you find and resolve warranty issues, you are going to become best friends with the folks in their service department. Sure, they'll service you anyway, but it's nice if you can both buy and service at your local dealer.
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Old 05-31-2017, 10:11 PM   #33
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Curious why the multiple recommendations for Colonial? We're narrowing in on a FC25 or 28 and planning on staying local in the Phoenix area as our local contact at Desert Autoplex has been fantastic. A few quotes from Colonial over the last few years indicated they were coming in no where close to 20% and their emails seemed like there was no room to negotiate. Kind of turned us off.
I'm looking too, but for late model pre-owned. Sounds like I need to take a drive up there. Do they have a big supply of pre-owned? We have Lazy Days here but they hardly had any pre-owned.
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Old 06-01-2017, 07:16 AM   #34
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If you are looking for a pre-owned AS, the pickings will be sparse no matter where you are looking. Colonial has their inventory (new and used) on the web. You can quickly see what they do (and do not) have available. Even on the new models, their inventory is quite large, but not complete. If you are after a 33' Classic, it will be hard to find one in stock.

Regardless of what you buy (car, truck, lawn mower, RV ...) the dealer who sold it to you will be a better bet for repairs than somebody who did not. Cars have changed a bit in this regard over the last 20 years. The other stuff ... not so much.

Just like cars and trucks, RV's have model years. I can still find new 2016 trucks on dealer lots. They have better deals on them than on 2017's. If they are still there this fall, the deals will be better still. If you can find a new 2017 trailer on a the lot in a "snow state" next December, I'll bet you can get a darn good deal on it. There are lots of variables.

A 2% delta on a $80,000 AS will be $1,600. If you drive your TV 1,000 miles each way to pick it up, that's a bit of driving. At 10 MPG and $2.50/gal gas, you will spend $500 on fuel. Two nights in a motel plus 5 days of meals likely will add $500. Wear and tear on the TV is another $200. Your $1,600 savings turns into $80 a day pretty fast.

Yes, it's a lot of money to buy one. Maintaining and "feeding" it are also a lot of money. Using it costs money. The TV costs money. Keep in mind that the cost of buying one this year (TV or AS) and trading it next year (or the year after) is an even bigger cost.

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Old 06-01-2017, 08:15 AM   #35
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Bruce Miller at Haydocy Airstream, Columbus, Oh. He is thought so highly of that he was invited to the national event ALUMAPALOOZA (being held at the factory in Jackson Center, OH right now) as the only dealer representative at the event selling Airstreams! He is actually a WBCCI member and camps on a regular basis with Airstream friends, and always works to educate! Bruce@Haydocy.com Or 937-725-2433.


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Old 06-01-2017, 08:46 AM   #36
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"Do not buy one of these trailers sight unseen !!!"

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I agreed to buy my AS 27FB over the phone sight unseen subject to the usual demo & inspection.

I drove 1K miles to the dealer with whom I had had no prior contact other than our recent telephone & Email correspondence.

He had his service tech do the demo & inspection, which revealed several minor glitches, which they fixed within an hour.

The dealer let us stay in his yard over the weekend at no charge.

Both the dealer's manager & his salesman & his sales manager could not have been more helpful & professional.

There were no surprises then; it's been close to two years since the transaction, and there have been no surprises to date.

I'd have no hesitation dealing with this dealer or its manager or salesman again; I found them all to be straight shooters.

For every general rule (ie, "Don't buy sight unseen."), there are always exceptions.

Note: I shopped extensively during & bought in November, after the summer sales period was history.
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Old 06-01-2017, 08:58 AM   #37
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We bought our trailer from Anthony at Vogt. Last time we drove by there, they appeared to have quite a few in stock and they are an advertiser on this forum. We got a very competitive price.
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Old 06-01-2017, 10:26 AM   #38
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"Do not buy one of these trailers sight unseen !!!"



For every general rule (ie, "Don't buy sight unseen."), there are always exceptions.

Note: I shopped extensively during & bought in November, after the summer sales period was history.
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Quite true. My main concern is buying an AS and never / ever having been in one before ... I have no doubt that if you have seen one 25' AS this or that, you have a pretty good idea what the other 25 footers will be like.

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Old 06-01-2017, 10:33 AM   #39
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Newbie plan to buy 2018 International

OP explicitly said they wanted to buy a new 2018 model.

No you cannot buy direct from Airstream. If you want to order custom, the dealer can provide insights on lead time.

Check your local dealer first to see what they have on the lot and what they already have in the queue for arrival in the coming weeks.

Larger dealers will likely have more on the lot from which to choose and a heavier stream of incoming models. Several names have already been mentioned. If you're determined to drive, take a look at Airstream Adventures Northwest, as they are actually several dealership locations under a single organization and they are one of the biggest by sales volume. Also, if you want a trailer that's at one of their other locations, they will happily bring it to the one closest to you.
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Old 06-01-2017, 10:42 AM   #40
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I'm looking too, but for late model pre-owned. Sounds like I need to take a drive up there. Do they have a big supply of pre-owned? We have Lazy Days here but they hardly had any pre-owned.
Pre-owned units are hard to come by but we've seen them. Lots of new ones on hand now.
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Old 06-02-2017, 05:56 AM   #41
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Based on a quick check of their web listings, Colonial has roughly three used AS in stock. Their inventory of used tends to slant towards the shorter end of the range. They appear to have > 100 new trailers in stock. Indeed, used ones are a bit harder to find than new ones.

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Old 06-02-2017, 06:40 AM   #42
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Where to buy...also, is a 22' Sport the right AS??

As others confirm, there are a few places to purchase where you can get at least 20% discount. If you can get more than that 21%+, that is also pretty good...I know of at least 4 dealers who are very aggressive right now, but 3 are a bit of a drive from TX. (I sent you private email on this.)

Bigger question may be if the 22Sport is the right unit for a newbie. Suggest spending time in that unit at a lot with 20', 23', and 25. You may find the subtle differences to be compelling to get a Flying Cloud model. We recently met a couple with a new 22 who after visiting with several of us at an AS ralley in Johnson City, decided they were going to sell their "new" 22 and get a 23'. As a newbie, looking at an older model is a great strategy also...you can save a bundle typically over new, and if you decide it's not for you, you can sell for likely same as you paid if it is in good shape when you sell. We did this with our first 2 25' Safari AS's!
Good luck...next, make sure you have a proper Tow Vehicle with enough payload, if you go bigger than a 22'.
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