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Old 08-06-2002, 10:12 PM   #15
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insideout,

Just some helpful info on pre-2000 suburbans.
k1500 suburbans with 350cc and factory towing package have 3.73 rears. Be careful that it doesn't have an after market hitch, because it probably has the 3.42 rears. I think you have to move up to the k2500 to get the 4.10 rears.

my '99 K1500 suburban 4X4 with a 350 (5.7) and a 3.73 ratio has a max trailer weight listing of 6,500 Ibs.

hopes this helps

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Old 08-06-2002, 11:20 PM   #16
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Thanks, good info ~

Although I don't know what all that means technically, Mr. InsideOut does...

I appreciate all the info & will post what we end-up getting...but not before asking more questions when the shopping time gets closer....

Thanks again!

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So much for planned out ideas

Well, I did state I would update the progress...and ended up scrapping the Cherokee tow idea... definately way too much trailer for the rig. So traded in my Wrangler and picked up a Ford F350 Diesel Powerstrokes... rated at 19,000 lbs towing capacity. Lucky for me - it already has a class 5 hitch and every trailer wiring adapter except the one I need! lol

The good news is that all the weight distribution stuff I got was easily transferred A Bright spot to everything. But the Cherokee did fine on flat areas - even the braking was ok - however even the slightest incline - it simply struggled. So think this time - I got the right tow vehicle for the trailer and am now departing for Seattle... Thanks for all the inputs - had to try

So off to the great northwest!
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Jody ~

Sorry to hear that your Grand Cherokee didn't work much better than our Cherokee...glad we aren't the only ones to believe the towing rating stated "on paper".

Sounds like you got a new set-up that'll do the trick! Have fun on your journey to the NorthWest...

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Update

Update from Seattle:

Left Philadelphia towing the Airstream behind the new to me F350. Was kinda annoyed that the trailer seemed to be lurching going along some backroads to by pass the numerous tolls. Stopped, adjusted the weight distribution - everything golden - handling went from "I feel the AirStream" to "don't feel a thing".

Only incident - lost one of the hub caps - which I am presuming was becuase when I had the tires replaced - I didn't bother to check to see if they were put back on snugly.

Hit South Dakota - on Sat - wind is incredible but the trailer stays straight. Pull over and stay at a campground. Meanwhile - Tornadoe warnings in effect and since everything was flat - crawled into the trailer and slept it out.

Hit the real test - the Cascades... Never skipped a beat... Made to Seattle, where a RVer was stranded on the side. Pull over and discovered they hadf had a blow out on brand new Goodyear tires. The tire had destroyed the wheelhouse and surrounding areas of the 5th wheel trailer. So I spend the next hour rewiring their electric brakes and trailer lights.... The amazing thing is they had been there for well over 2 hours and not a single person had stopped to help - and there were dozens of RV's just whipping through...

So found a campground in Falls City. Did the hook-ups. Had a water leak under the sink. the plastic fitting joining tht e cold water from the sink to the supply line had cracked. Fixed that. Now have a problem with the grey water leaking at the rear when the aux tank is 1/2 full... looks like the gasket has a pinhole leak in it where it comes out of the trailer... no idea how to fix that at the moment... and the Battery doesn't seem to hold a 12 volt charge - which means I would imagine a replacement is in order.

So in the meantime - everything else is running fine and I started doing some interior renovation. Currently have replaced the front counch mattress with a full size coil sprung mattress. Its a little larger than the orginal but I find the comfort outweights the extra bulge. I also started taking down the old cloth covered decor pieces and recovering them in vinyl. Will post some pictures up for anyone interested a bit later.

Ironically I didn't see a single Airstream until once I got through Montana. At the park - there are three Airstreams - mine being the only 70's style. One really beautiful Soverign is here that is polished to marine inspection standard. The first day there I saw a one of the Airstream motorhomes - had to take a double look at it - it was painted in various shades of lavenders - looked really neat and definately a custom job....

So thats the report from Seattle after the cross country trip...
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Glad to hear things seem to be running pretty smoothly...not bad for a first trip Anxious to see pix of your maiden voyage & remodeling efforts ~

Travel safely & keep the shiny side up!

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hi again - I should have mentioned in my last post (in the models forum) that my hub has an old 73 Ford Bronco. That is what he wants to eventually use as a tow vehicle. It needs alot (mostly new engine and pwr steering) to make it usable. Just wondered what thoughts anyone had on that if we make the new engine a V8? Its wheelbase is the same as our Jeep but not sure of tow capacity. He thinks towing our 78 Argosy with our 73 Bronco would be "way cool" Leigh
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And the SAGA continues...

Week Number three and lo and behold....


The remedy for the rear leak from the grey water tank - more accurately that the pipe with the dohickie called a flapper valve or something or the other - has been given a quick fix. Another AS owner suggested I just get one of those Tote-a-tanks so could just empty things out without having to hitch up the trailer every time. Reminder to self - investigate campgrounds and only use those which have the sanitary hookups... instead of being weary and saying "wow this place looks cool"...It cost me 89 + tax for a 22 gallon ... even comes with a handle that can be hooked onto back of a ball hitch...

Thought that my shower door was leaking an obnoxious amount of water - and did my best to not spray the door... then after several days noticed that the small damp puddle had become almost a small pond. Considering that with the rear leak - I had concentrated on using the potable water for cooking and bowel relievement festivities for several days... I sprang the notion to investigate the toilet as a source... Sure enuf.... had my own 'cold springs" whenever I flushed... Further investigation revealed a AS Option that I am not too terribly certain was a manufactures option... I had a - well doohickie - that normally sits on household faucets that let you move the hose around to spray out pots and pans - hooked to the toilet... everytime I flushed the coupling where it is tied into the water line would joyously generate fountains of fresh water... hence the carpet did its job and gleefully soaked it all up...

Luckily for me - every misfortune has a silver lining. The carpet was ruined and having educated myself on the effects of sitting water on wood - deemed it necessary to expidite my flooring project Being on a budget I went for the industrial laminate tile which I believe will make the perfect base layer for phase two which will be the laying of Pergo at a later time...

Alas - still one more 'unsolved mystery" which is none of the front overhead lights will come on, nor the galley light, or the outside light, or the door light... I should not be two hasty to say never - occassionally they will "all the sudden" come on. First time it happened it blew a fuse and I fixed that - however - the second time - the fuse tested SAT and I am left with determining when I will have use of the lighting and for how long...

And I had to replace my Aluminum Tanks becuase nobody here has the valves and after comparing the costs to recertify, new valve installation, and refill - it was cheaper to get new ones on short notice (decided one day without the ability to cook was about all I was in the mood for - wait who am I kidding - I cook only occassionally - the real reason was wanting hot water for long showers....(never have to worry about the tank get full from a 40 minute shower (kidding of course))....


Suffice it to say all is well and it has been a great adventure thus far...
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Re: towing

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He thinks towing our 78 Argosy with our 73 Bronco would be "way cool" Leigh
Not to be one to damper anyone's enthusiasm - I personally would rethink it as a option. Longer wheelbase does add to greater safety and overall comfort. Secondly - consider the mechanical issues with using a older vehicle - even if it does get a new engine. You have to worry about everything else on it going to pieces and could just become a money pit in repairs... I still have my Grand Cherokee becuase I can use it as a daily driver and I abuse it off-road (my hobby) but if you are going to actually travel with 6000lb+ AS on a regular basis on long trips... the "cool" factor may wear off fairly quickly.... But if you can do it and you love it - then by all means... just compare what it is going to cost to get load rated tires, shocks, helper springs, etc... etc... etc.. to that of just having another vehicle... or do what I did - I hooked up my AS to my GC and thought wow this is great!!! then I went uphill ...
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Old 09-04-2002, 09:18 AM   #24
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I'm with JodynJeep about rethinking the 73 Bronco as a tow vehicle. If memory serves me right, it is the small Bronco. A full size Bronco would be OK for your small AS but the small model would be an accident ready to happen.
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Tow Vehicle Update...

Well, the Jeep Cherokee has made it's last trip! Thank Goodness!

Today we purchased a "new-to-us" 1996 GMC Yukon. It's a 4-dr, 4x4 with a factory tow package, a Vortec 5.7L V8 engine and 3.73 rear axle ratio.

October 4th we will take it on it's maiden voyage to Albuquerque...hopefully, we will make it there alot easier, faster & most importantly safer than we would have in the Jeep! Besides, I don't think Mr. InsideOut would have emotionally survived the anticipated 12+ hours it would have taken us to get there in the Jeep @ <45 mph! He can't stand driving as it is...now it should only be a normal 7-8 hours from Denver at 55-60 mph.

Thanks to all who posted advice that helped in our decision-making process

I'll post an update after the trip...

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That should prove to be a fine tow vehicle. My old '73 Blazer with a much earlier version of the 350 very willingly pulled my 4100# sailboat on a heavy tandem trailer up to Lake Dillon and over the pass into Jackson Hole. The later 350s had a lot more punch than that old '73.
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Shari,
You have chosen a nice vehicle which should handle your trailer without problem. Mr. Inside Out should arrive at your destinations in a better state of mind without white knuckles. Keep an eye out on the 2 piece on the manifold under the fuel injection throttle body. They have a tendency to start leaking antifreeze sometimes and when you spot that, the gasket needs to be replaced. Other than that, you have a great unit.
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Thanks Craig, we'll keep an eye out for that...in the meantime, "happy trails to you...."

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