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Old 08-10-2008, 10:52 PM   #15
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The frozen jack makes one think that it's been underwater however.
Our 2005 needed to have it's jack replaced this spring when it froze during cherry blossom rally. I think it cost about $200- we looked up the manufacturer online and order a new one.
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Old 08-11-2008, 05:45 AM   #16
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Let me guess now too... hurricane Katrina, 2005... airstream from Georgia a 2004... lots of rust and water related damage. Wonder if seller might have escaped Georgia for the beautiful gulf coast. Wonder is sell might have even left it there for long periods of time, maybe while fleeing a coming hurricane. Maybe seller is old school, afraid to contact his insurance to report all the damage. Seller says "I'll just do this myself so that my rates do not go up", or "dagnabit i aint got no insurance" and then they realize it was really worse than originally thought and they dump it on someone that cannot really check it out in person.
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Old 08-11-2008, 06:01 AM   #17
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fortunately, i know that isnt the scenario.
they are a couple 60/80 that live in VT and wintered in GA.

If I go the repair it route...should I go to:
1) Airstream HQ
2) Colonial
3) DJ RV in PA
4) have it done by a local rv handyman/restorer?

i'm 500 miles from HQ, ~100 to colonial or DJ RV.

main concern, getting it done right.

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Old 08-11-2008, 06:21 AM   #18
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fortunately, i know that isnt the scenario.
they are a couple 60/80 that live in VT and wintered in GA.

If I go the repair it route...should I go to:
1) Airstream HQ
2) Colonial
3) DJ RV in PA
4) have it done by a local rv handyman/restorer?

i'm 500 miles from HQ, ~100 to colonial or DJ RV.

main concern, getting it done right.

thanks
Eric,
First off, I am deeply sorry to hear of your dilemma
I would take it to Colonial in New Jersey. I got my '06 from DJ RV in Danville and they are great people and their sales and service is great. But they do not sell Airstreams anymore (they couldn’t compete with Colonial) and I do not know if they retained their Airstream Service credentials. I have had mine back to DJ for PA state inspection and minor warranty repairs, but nothing like what you have in mind. They are a small shop and only have one repair bay. Colonial is a large operation and definitely has the facilities and personnel to help you along the road to a solid odorless Airstream.
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Old 08-11-2008, 06:49 AM   #19
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Welcome to the Forum and I'm sorry it was not as happy a time as we all wish for our new members. Let me say that not getting any response from the sellers doesn't mean they are dishonest. I bought a wonderfully maintained 1976 Sovereign from an older gentlemen in Michigan last October. I bought it through just pictures on the Classifieds right here. I did make the drive to pick it up myself after paying one fouth of the purchase price sight-unseen as a deposit. This is a great trailer and has obviously been extremely well cared for; however, I have never been able to contact the seller to tell him how much we love the trailer. I have even sent him pictures by regular mail, along with multiple emails. At times I think there must be something really horrible wrong with the trailer and surely something will just fall off in the middle of the night and he doesn't want me to be able to contact him. Nothing so far. He is an elderly man who we enjoyed talking with when we picked up the trailer. You could tell he really loved his Airstream and wanted it to have a good home. So perhaps your sellers just didn't know what their trailer looked like now. Bet it can be fixed and you will still have a great Airstream. After all, my old 76 is still on the road.
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Old 08-11-2008, 06:59 AM   #20
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Eric,

I suspect that the sellers did not know the true condition. Years ago my parents lived in Houston and stored their new motorhome about 40 miles from the ocean. A small leak or trapped humidity resulted in significant rotting in an outside comparment floor - on a 2 or 3 year old unit. While I enjoyed their visits I always new that I was in for a few days work everytime the MH showed up! ( I dug the rot out and scarffed in a new plywood floor - lots of epoxy and a drain line for the next leak.)

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Mabye an easy fix for the H20 tank would be to put about a two to three cups of bleach into it, fill with water and let it sit for a day or so. Flush it out and it should be OK.

Flooring, windows, etc, you really need to talk to a dealer, unless you are seriously planning on tearing into it yourself and have the know how. Prices can very greatly depending on the specific job. I think the prev owner's offer to pay to have it brought back to the condition of what was in the ad, back to Jackson Center is a fair offer.

BTW, the main door seals on nearly every new Airstream I've examined, including my own, are not air/water tight seals. There are significant gaps, but those gaps, though the don't allow the cool or heat to be kept in very well, have not yet allowed water into my unit.
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Old 08-11-2008, 07:28 AM   #22
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If you decide to keep it I would start drying it out immediately, get some heat in the unit, a couple of 100 watt bulbs 24/7 for a week or two. Get some febreze sprayed around in there with the heat and cook the oder out.

Did you sign a bill of sale which states sold as is? I buy many things used and have had to live with a few mistakes, even after inspecting the item and also have made some great deals. Sight unseen and long distance sales are tough. A 2004 trailer is by no means a new unit, I find that the problem with these units are they are not old enough to make restoration a viable option but often have many of the early signs of neglect so they are not pristine and often disappoint the buyer. When I purchased my 2005 in 2006 it was new, I started out looking at $10,000 used trailers and decided that I had to go full tilt restore or new.

Many owners of trailers, boats, cars, are not dedicated to maintaing their toys. One of the pictures shows a young girls bike in front of the trailer, I would bet that the young girl is now a teenager and the family couldn't drag her into the trailer so it is sold and time moves on.

Good luck with the unit , I hope you will find the problems are not as bad as you fear and with the help of the good folks here most can be sorted out rather quickly. Floor rot, leaks, and other problems can be solved and often with out to much expense. Others here have faced worse problems you may want to start planning you first trip nothing you have stated will stop you from enjoying the unit.

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Old 08-11-2008, 07:34 AM   #23
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Here are a few sight unseen suggestions, so take them for what they are worth:
A brand-new electric tongue jack is about $300 from Camping World. There are three bolts and a wire holding it on the trailer. You will save another $300 performing this relatively easy repair yourself. It usually takes me 30-45 minutes to replace one.

Let a professional re-replace the rear window. In case it leaks again, or something else bad happens to it, you will have recourse.

You can get a new fridge hinge from Dometic, through most authorized Dometic dealers, even Camping World can order the hinge. It is a matter of a bolt and two screws to replace. This is a repair you can make yourself.

Have the floor checked over carefully by someone that knows what to look for. If the floor is merely soft, and not thoroughly rotten, you can get a product called Rot Doctor (the epoxy mentioned above) to repair the floor.

When you take your trailer in for the window repair, and whatever else you don't feel comfortable doing yourself, ask them to leak-check the trailer. Most RV repair centers have a gizmo that slightly pressurizes the trailer, and they apply soapy water to the outside. Anyplace you see bubbles is a leak.
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Old 08-11-2008, 07:35 AM   #24
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Let me guess now too... hurricane Katrina, 2005... airstream from Georgia a 2004... lots of rust and water related damage. Wonder if seller might have escaped Georgia for the beautiful gulf coast. Wonder is sell might have even left it there for long periods of time, maybe while fleeing a coming hurricane. Maybe seller is old school, afraid to contact his insurance to report all the damage. Seller says "I'll just do this myself so that my rates do not go up", or "dagnabit i aint got no insurance" and then they realize it was really worse than originally thought and they dump it on someone that cannot really check it out in person.
I am from New Orleans, my trailer spent Hurricane Katrina at Disney, Fort Wilderness, I bet you would of never guessed that.

BTW I had a 34 foot sailboat totaled by Katrina, Allstate gave the boat back to me not even a buy back deal and reinsured the boat with no rate increase it was part of a negoation on salvage issues. Insurance dose not always work out how you would think.
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If you are handy you can find a Jack on ebay for half that price or at least you could a couple of years ago, I have one.
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Old 08-11-2008, 08:44 AM   #26
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What was replaced in the rear window? The glass or the complete frame?

As for the jack I would call the manufacture and ask for a repair price. Mine went back for a question and was repaired at NO COST. Take the head cover off the jack and make sure you have power inside the housing before you condemn the jack. If it is ceased I would assume it would have blown the fuse.

As for the floor. If you can find soft spots in the open areas you must assume there are problems under concealed areas such as the cabinets and bed. The floor is a structural part of the trailer and you have to be sure the perimeter, close to the body, is good or in time you will see body problems such as cracks or folds in the body.

Not to add to your problems but I would not suggest you go to Colonial. They are a great place to by a trailer because they are a used car dealer that went into the trailer business. Repairs are not their forte. They are only now opening a parts dept. If you do decide to use a dealer contact Park View in Smyrna De. They were a dealer and have a long history of working on Airstreams.

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Old 08-11-2008, 09:03 AM   #27
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When you take your trailer in for the window repair, and whatever else you don't feel comfortable doing yourself, ask them to leak-check the trailer. Most RV repair centers have a gizmo that slightly pressurizes the trailer, and they apply soapy water to the outside. Anyplace you see bubbles is a leak.
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Old 08-11-2008, 10:49 AM   #28
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Reminds me

Just over a year ago I was up at GSM picking up my trailer, which had the frame fixed and floor replaced, plus a couple other odds-n-ends.

While there Colin showed us a very recent airstream ( I think it was a bambi) that the owners had brought in to have new upholstery put on. What Colin discovered was that under the cabinets and in other areas, the original dealer had not done a complete job of removing the protective plastic from the floor. Airstream apparently ships trailers with a plastic cover on the carpets and the dealer removes this prior to sale. From what I saw, it seems like airstream carpets the interior, lays the protective plastic ontop and then installs the cabinets.

Somewhere down the line the airstream leaked water, OH big surprise, and it was caught under the plastic. So the question is, what happens when moisture is trapped under plastic? MOLD and rot. He pulled back the plastic and you could smell the mold. Plus Colin was able to poke a screw driver through the floor, you could see glimpses of daylight from under the cabinet.

Colin told the owners this and as you could expect, they were shocked. I'm not sure what ever happened to that trailer but Colin was guessing it would need a full shell off floor replacement. l

I wonder if that is the case with yours. Maybe some plastic that was not removed properly and water over time became trapped and caused the floor to rot.

Good luck.
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