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Old 05-22-2006, 01:50 PM   #197
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Old 05-22-2006, 05:02 PM   #198
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Old 05-22-2006, 07:07 PM   #199
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Yeah mods , I know that this should be posted to the "so you want to buy a trailer trailer 3 states away" thread but I couldn't find that thread at a glance and maybe this thought does not need to be mingled with the numerous posts there.
I have, over time, been asked to do 6 volunteer inspections in my area. I obliged even though some trailers were as much as 80 miles away. 3 of the 6 trailers I inspected were purchased, 2 were not purchased on my recommendation and 1 was a no reply.
The most compensation I received was $20 which didn't even cover my gas expense.
I was of the opinion that this should be a reciprocal idea, i.e. you inspect a trailer for me and I'll do the same for another brother or sister AS nut, but this has not turned out to be the case in my experience.
IMHO, members who utilize this service should be prepared to pay the inspector a price that will at least cover the time and mileage or at very least join the volunteer inspectors list.
I see from personal experience that some folks will take advantage of a free offer which might save them thousands of dollars, and that is really sad here in our Aistream fellowship. I will ask Rich to remove me from the volunteer inspectors list.
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Old 05-22-2006, 07:23 PM   #200
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Rog,
Sorry that you have been used and abused. It can be a great service if we treat others as we would like to be treated.

By the way, Rich tells me that he no longer maintains the list. I have encouraged the moderators to take over.
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Old 05-22-2006, 08:16 PM   #201
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Wow, you get paid for inspections? I thought it was something you did to help a fellow Airstreamer out. I think I'll do it when I retire and supplement my pension.

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Old 05-23-2006, 12:40 AM   #202
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Wow, you get paid for inspections? I thought it was something you did to help a fellow Airstreamer out. I think I'll do it when I retire and supplement my pension.
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Cheap shot, flynmike. I hope it made you feel good, fellow Airstreamer. My Airstream friends don't take advantage of fellow Airstreamers. Let me know how you feel after you've done a number of these volunteer inspections. You're going to especially love it when you later discover that you did a free inspection for someone who buys and sells Airstream trailers for profit.
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Old 05-23-2006, 01:23 AM   #203
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Helpin' out is great, but!

Rog -

Sorry to hear of the rough deal you have got from other AS fans.

Personally, I have offered to help folks with any 'inspection' assistance I can offer. I have yet to be taken up on the deal.

If perchance I do get asked, I will be sure to cover the 'type' of deal being considered. If there is a commercial vendor that is asking me to assist them with making a sweatheart deal/ or not - then I CERTAINLY expect to be VERY FAIRLY compensated even if the 'deal' goes belly up.

I am offering to help a fellow AS'er out, period. I am NOT doing this for profit and anyone that wants me to assist them with a money making enterprise will likely get an offer/ bill they won't consider.... OK by me.

Afterall, I CAN be bought, but it ain't gonna be cheap...!!!!!

As to the 'true' fellow AS'ers - I really wouldn't expect anything in return but perhaps a lunch where we can share stories, photos and swap flamingo's!

The ever higher gas/diesel costs do make the offer to assist a bit more daunting but hey, is there a price for helping out a friend?

Count me in. "Damn the torpedoes".

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Old 05-23-2006, 04:18 AM   #204
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Rog -

Sorry to hear of the rough deal you have got from other AS fans.

Personally, I have offered to help folks with any 'inspection' assistance I can offer. I have yet to be taken up on the deal.

If perchance I do get asked, I will be sure to cover the 'type' of deal being considered. If there is a commercial vendor that is asking me to assist them with making a sweatheart deal/ or not - then I CERTAINLY expect to be VERY FAIRLY compensated even if the 'deal' goes belly up.

I am offering to help a fellow AS'er out, period. I am NOT doing this for profit and anyone that wants me to assist them with a money making enterprise will likely get an offer/ bill they won't consider.... OK by me.

Afterall, I CAN be bought, but it ain't gonna be cheap...!!!!!

As to the 'true' fellow AS'ers - I really wouldn't expect anything in return but perhaps a lunch where we can share stories, photos and swap flamingo's!

The ever higher gas/diesel costs do make the offer to assist a bit more daunting but hey, is there a price for helping out a friend?

Count me in. "Damn the torpedoes".

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There are lots of good points raised in this thread. In the original thread, I thought Rich had mentioned that at a bare minimum, someone using this service should at least ask to reimburse the inspector for mileage. If mileage is important to you as an inspector, and it isn't offered up, then ask for it in advance. Then, no surprises and everyone is happy.
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Old 05-23-2006, 06:32 AM   #205
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I have to agree about asking for a mileage charge up front if you want or need the compensation. However, you have to realize that there are lots of folks out there who are not qualified to inspect a trailer, so the idea of returning the favor probably isn't workable. I have inspected a couple of trailers for people, but never thought to ask for gas money. It was kind of an adventure and only about 100 miles away. With gas prices the way they are now, gas money might be a good thing to offer.
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Old 05-23-2006, 06:39 AM   #206
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With the price of fuel going up by leaps and bounds, it may be a good idea to set a boundary for "absolutely free" inspections, of say, within 10 miles of your home. Anything over that, even (at the time I write this) $.15/mile will help defray the high cost of fuel.
Also, obviously someone took advantage of Roger's free service to make a profit, which is not in the spirit behind volunteer inspections.
I'll see if I can find out who currently has control of the volunteer list, and ask them to remove Roger from it, or at the very least make his "inspection area" a lot smaller.
What do you say Rog, within 10 miles for a private purchaser only, or drop you from the list altogether?
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Old 05-23-2006, 07:09 AM   #207
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...............Rog , I couldn't agree more ! If , the trailer is maybe five miles away I'd be willing to pay you a minimum of 50 bucks just to take a look . Why shouldn't an airstreamer who has valuable knowledge be compensated for their time and effort ? Some folks are just cheap and try to turn their nickles into quarters by laying them on the railroad tracks . r66
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Old 05-23-2006, 07:47 AM   #208
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........ You're going to especially love it when you later discover that you did a free inspection for someone who buys and sells Airstream trailers for profit.
That would burn me up, to the point of asking the mods to ban such a person from the 'forums. I cannot stand dishonesty, in any form. And yes, folks, I realize this is the internet. But this 'forum is anything but your typical internet site. I truely believe that most folks here have a basically decent reason to be here. I said most folks.

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Old 05-23-2006, 09:05 AM   #209
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I feel for Rog...especially the part about reselling the trailer for a profit. Very seedy IMHO! I do RV inspections and PDI as part of the services that I offer. As this is a part of my business, I charge the customer my usual hourly rate.

I have given a lot of advice on these Forums freely while my customers pay me for these opinions. I have no problem in doing this as I feel a part of this community and this is my 'contribution' to fellow 'Streamers. I am more than willing to look at a trailer or MOHO for a Forum member if it is within ...say, a 20 mile radius of my home base. After that, it not only becomes an expense for me in fuel costs, but more specifically in the time spent doing the inspection. The inspection will be a basic walk thru and look under type.

A properly conducted PDI of a used unit will normally take upwards of 3 hours. This includes all working systems, structural components, brakes, etc. It is very involved and thorough. Plus, I have liability issues to consider as I am considered a 'professional' in this field, especially being a certified tech.

I have never been called to do an inspection yet, but I will, when the ocassion arises, do it on a case by case basis.
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Old 05-23-2006, 09:18 AM   #210
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What do you say Rog, within 10 miles for a private purchaser only, or drop you from the list altogether?
Terry, I've agreed to do an inspection tomorrow on a trailer 25 miles away. I take these inspections seriously. I check everything from stem to stern and from tires to tv antenna. I crawl underneath to look at the torsion arm angles and I take lots of photos. An average inspection takes about 1 hour plus driving time plus the time to handle the correspondence.
Four of the 6 people who have asked me for inspections joined the forums just to ask for the freebie inspection, then were not heard from again after they got their freebie. They conveniently overlooked the line at the bottom of the list which says "Please offer to reimburse for expenses. Suggested rate is $0.30 per mile". That's just gas money. The inspection is still free, as it should be.
What really bugs me is not the lack of payment, it's the lack of gratitude. Since I'm the only volunteer inspector in my area, I'm willing to continue the inspections but only on a "pay per play" basis for trailers in my immediate area (within 25 miles) and assurance that the requester is serious about finding an Airstream trailer for personal use. No more inspections at any price for anyone looking to profit from my time. Once burned, twice learned!
Nuff said, let's all get out and enjoy our Airstream adventures.
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