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Old 03-22-2003, 01:28 PM   #15
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ever consider italian?

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I really am irritated with the current crop of choices today. When the weather improves, I always get the itch for a new bike. I sold my last bike, a '92 Yamaha Virago 750, a couple of years ago to buy parts for my '94 Miata. It was in showroom condition, always garaged and I got a good price for it. (the Yamaha)

I recently went to all the big 4's sites (Honda, H-D, Suzuki, Kawasaki) looking for something in the 450-750 range and was very disappointed. All most all of the mid-range bikes were of the sport bike type. I REALLY like these but I was looking for something like my Virago, a cruiser. If I bought a SportBike I would drive it like a maniac and end up dead or dismembered. There are a couple of cruiser choices but not many. I want another Shaft drive. The Virago's shaft drive was so trouble free, clean and quiet. All I ever did to this bike was oil it and gas it. I just want a Sunday morning cruiser. NEW, not used.

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bobby,

ever look at motor guzzi's?

i believe the have a model called the "california" that might be what you are looking for.

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Old 03-22-2003, 01:42 PM   #16
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Thumbs up got ya hooked up

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this as close to a virago as you will ever get.

various engine sizes, shaft drive, cruiser styling.

motoguzzi

and they are new!

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Old 03-22-2003, 03:01 PM   #17
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Those look cool. Are they expensive?

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Old 03-22-2003, 03:48 PM   #18
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Seeing as I drive to and from Houston everyday, I was thinking about this one.

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What do you call a motorcycle with independent four-wheel suspension and an 8.3 liter, 500 horsepower, V-10 engine from a Dodge Viper? The Dodge Tomahawk concept vehicle. The 1500 lb Tomahawk can go zero to 60 in 2.5 seconds, and has an estimated top speed of 300+ mph. There's not really a chassis - the suspension bolts to engine-mounted plates. And, the Tomahawk is made of solid billet castings or billet machinings.
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Old 03-22-2003, 04:47 PM   #19
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Hey Bobby You could also consider a duel purpose bike about 600 to 650 ccs there great for around town and you can take them trail ridding also I am looking to buy a 2000 kawasiki KLR 650 duel purpose bike myself a friend has it and wants to sell it to me for 3,000 bucks could probably pay for itself in about a year of driving to work I get 12 miles per gallon in my truck just got to talk the boss (my wife) into letting me buy it.
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john hd's bike

By the way john
That is one sweeeeeet ride you have
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Old 03-22-2003, 05:27 PM   #21
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bobby,

that would be one quick commute!

paul,

thanks!

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Did I noticed only men talking about commuting with a bike ?

When I was in my 20's, I had a store about 20 miles from home. Parking situation in town was bad and expensive. (that's was in France, Bordeaux).
So I started to commute, weather permitting, using a Honda 125.
I suppose at that age, I was not afraid of much. Country roads were no problem. City traffic was awful: a few miles of 4 or 5 lanes, anything goes traffic. Some of it on cobblestones. I notice that in the States, drivers are more courteous toward bikes (in France, they will travel in the same lane as you).
I learned one thing: even if they have a stop, anything bigger than you has the right of way. An encounter one evening with a drunk, revoked licence & insurance taught me so. (never saw me, had to be chased by a witness). The cops commented :"him again".
I learned another thing: even in the summer, wear leather gear. It soften a lot the contact with the road. I ended up with a broken helmet, a broken collar bone, bad scrapes on my knees, and a very dead bike. As soon as I healed, I bought a Honda 350, and drove it to work about every day (except worse days of winter). I went on like that for years until I moved here. My sister started to ride when she was 16, 31 years later she still does (not commuting, just pleasure). She never had a very flashy bike or anything that she couln't handle. She never had an accident either.
Biking is safe if you have the right attitude (yes, I know, accidents are always possible). If you go there to play "cowboy", you better use a car.
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I suppose the right attitude entails thinking that something can go wrong, anytime, anywhere.

I think this all means that a biker pays a higher price for the mistakes of others and that problems need to be preempted before they occur.
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Right.

More than when driving a car, it means, always be aware of everything. Do not trust that the guy who signals you to go is not going to change his mind and do something stupid, like pulling in front of you at the last minute. It means, NOT listening to music through head phones, but listening for EVERYTHING around you. Knowing that if you let your guard down, it can cost you. Thinking you HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY, can cost you. Being hard headed, can cost you.
When you are riding alone, the attitude is very different than in a "pack". You are a lot more at the mercy of people's stupidity.

In spite of all those negative remarks, commuting to work with a bike can be really fun. I would do it again....if I was young again.
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by harley standards, no.

by everyones else, yes.

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If I hadn't priced out Harleys a few years ago, I wouldn'g have had a clue, but I see what you mean. Guess it's true, you want the good stuff...$$$$$$

Hey John, you thinkn' of going to the midwest meet maybe in June?

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Great comments made by everyone on the forum. A newbie in my late teens, I started out with a Honda 350 with no one to teach me how to ride. A friend drove me 250 miles to buy the bike brand new off the showroom floor at a great cash price and then followed me back to the house. I stopped once on the way back as I pulled off the road on a grassy spot and promptly fell over. OK, I hear you laughing now. I used this bike daily while going to college and work. A year later I graduated up to a Honda 500 four cylinder and she was nice. I put a Vetter fairing on and put about 14,000 miles on her until one of the Honda store guys asked me to follow him on his 750 while he delivered a new bike. Here we go again as I bought a new 750 the next week. I guess I put at least 24,000 miles on that bike and during that time experienced some exciting times (driving to TX. and back from Nashville, TN.) as well as some hair raising experiences. I've blown a rear tube at 60 mph where two interstates converge and was all over 6 lanes before I came to a stop next to a guard rail. Man was my heart pumping. Some construction guys came over, loaded me up on a truck and took me to a nearby Honda dealer who put on a new tube and wider rear tire. I've hit an oil slick on the college campus after a rain, dropped the bike, cracked an elbow and split my pants. No real damage to the bike here. I've had an 18 wheeler come over on me at 55 mph and almost pin me up against a guard rail. Then there was the time a State of TN. vehicle pull out in front of me in a downpour just missing my leg. I've misjudged a turn and run off the road into gravel but was able to keep it up. Heart pounding again. OK, enough excitement but you get the picture. I've made a few mistakes but most of my bad experiences were due to weather conditions (wet/rainey) and people not paying attention.

I rode in the rain because I did not have any other choice. I wore an old yellow chemical exposure suit with the head cut out (purchased from an Army Surplus Store) and it kept me dry as a bone. My '70 GTO was down in TX. and I was not able to get it back up to TN. but when I did, the bike wasn't ridden during bad weather. After one of my last bad experiences, the bike seemed to be top heavy and I began to worry more than before about the other guy.

I liked my bikes, particularly the 550 and the 750 and would love to have either of them back. Be careful if you want to make the bike experience and after selecting your bike, practice, practice, practice away from traffic before you spend much time there. I couldn't afford a HD but if you like the look, how about the Honda Shadow 750. One of the guys at work has one and he really likes it. It has caught my eye and I keep telling myself NO!
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Thanks for sharing this experience.
I am a conservative driver, always playing the "what-if" game, what happens if this, what happens if that. With bikes, I suppose this is way more applicable. If I do get it, I don't anticipate riding it in anything other than good conditions in a rural to semi-rural region.

I want to expand my horizons, do things I've never done. Which is probably the key reason why I got into this Airstream idea to begin with. I like it thus far but requires some readjustment.

It does take a certain type of a personality to do non-mainstream things like A/S.
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