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Old 11-01-2004, 09:10 AM   #1
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Misleading Ad?

Check out the Reese ad on the back of the new ASLife. Curbside door on what appears to be a Bambi? What about the double axle? Checked AS website, can't find any models like that. Isn't that a Nissian Pathfinder? Is it rated high enough to pull a Bambi?
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Check out the Reese ad on the back of the new ASLife. Curbside door on what appears to be a Bambi? What about the double axle? Checked AS website, can't find any models like that. Isn't that a Nissian Pathfinder? Is it rated high enough to pull a Bambi?
Look at the A/S website again. The trailer is a 22' Safari, the successor to the International AS that I used to have. The trailer image is reversed (ain't PhotoShop wonderful), putting the door on the street side.

I can't comment on the Pathfinder towing capacity, but my AS kept a 5.3L Silverado pretty busy. The Safari grosses at about 5600# as I recall.
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Pahaska beat me to the punch. Here's a cropped version of the same pic flipped horizontally.
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And I think the TV is a Toyota fourrunner, I don't know for sure, but I know it is not a pathfinder.
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Old 11-01-2004, 01:09 PM   #5
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Its an Izuzu Trooper - I had one just like it. That trailer would be a bit much for the Trooper.

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Yeah, and it doesn't really look as if there is even room for a Reese hitch between the TV and TT.

Reese's ad dept. is either on the ball, because they are getting all this scrutiny and attention to detail in their ad. Or they are really bad and Reese needs to do some house cleaning.
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Old 11-01-2004, 01:55 PM   #7
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Pahaska is right, PhotoShop is a wonderful thing. My eyes were resting on the ad and it dawned on me that the door was curbside. Caught my interest. Do the CCD's have diamond shaped running lights like the one in the ad? Never noticed. Mine are all tear drops.

You definately need Reese if you are pulling a 22'er with a Trooper!
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Old 11-01-2004, 11:48 PM   #8
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maertsria???

I haven't seen the original ad, but it sure looks to me like "AIRSTREAM" reads backwards on the front of the trailer in the "flipped" picture above. Even the individual letters seem to be flipped. Reese must have editted the original photo to make sure they avoided any copyrights to the original picture, otherwise when they flipped the picture, then "AIRSTREAM" would have reads backwards in the actual magazine ad.

Come to think of it, after Rog flipped the photo, it is now driving on the wrong side of the yellow line. I'm not sure the photo was flipped by Reese at all? The really makes the door location a mystery, or an even better Photoshop creation.

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I haven't seen the original ad, but it sure looks to me like "AIRSTREAM" reads backwards on the front of the trailer in the "flipped" picture above. Even the individual letters seem to be flipped. Reese must have editted the original photo to make sure they avoided any copyrights to the original picture, otherwise when they flipped the picture, then "AIRSTREAM" would have reads backwards in the actual magazine ad.

Come to think of it, after Rog flipped the photo, it is now driving on the wrong side of the yellow line. I'm not sure the photo was flipped by Reese at all? The really makes the door location a mystery, or an even better Photoshop creation.

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Joe... you beat me to it... the first thing I noticed was the yellow stripes, and the Airstream on the wrong side in Rog's 'flipped' photo. Unfortunately I haven't seen the original in Airstream Life... but...

It doesn't look like the photos of the 22' CCD on the Airstream site...

Is there a current Airstream model that is 19' with tandem axles where the wheel well cuts into the bottom of a suicide door that lives on the wrong side? Could this be a foreign market Airstream that isn't sold domestically? Anybody heard of such a trailer? Anybody heard about building trailers for the off-shore market?

Hmmm... and I agree about the TV being a Trooper. I sure wouldn't want to tow anything larger than a 19' with it!

Questions, questions, questions...

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Old 11-02-2004, 06:45 AM   #10
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...... Anybody heard about building trailers for the off-shore market? Hmmm... and I agree about the TV being a Trooper. I sure wouldn't want to tow anything larger than a 19' with it!......

What if......copywriters let go from a recent VW advertising fiasco ended up working for the company that did the Reese ads????
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What if......copywriters let go from a recent VW advertising fiasco ended up working for the company that did the Reese adds????

I have to wonder if the whole thing was done on purpose. The badging is blacked out/removed from the TV and the Airstream. By flipping the negative over the Airstream does not look quite right. This eliminates any direct advertisement of the products in question. Since it is an impossible hook up, it would also eliminate Reese from liability, should use their towing products to connect your 25 foot Airstream to the back of a trooper or other undersized TV based on seeing it in one of their ads.

There is not a disclaimer, as I remember on, the ad regarding the setup used in the ad. Most ads, commercials especially, always have the little statements, of professional driver, closed course. Or obey all speed limits, etc.
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It is not a 19'and it is not a CCD

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It doesn't look like the photos of the 22' CCD on the Airstream site...

Is there a current Airstream model that is 19' with tandem axles where the wheel well cuts into the bottom of a suicide door that lives on the wrong side?
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As I posted above, I believe that it is a heavily PhotoShopped 22' Safari, the successor to the 22' International AS that I owned before my current Classic.

Some clues are the the dual axles, Safari-style rubber-edged windows, and the refrigerator grilles behind the door.

When the PhotoShop artist foreshortened the trailer, he had to cut the wheel well into the door to prevent distorting the wheelwell. Not a difficult thing to do in PhotoShop. I teach Photoshop at Computer rallies and I demonstrate many of the techniques that would have been used to modify this photo. For instance, to prevent distorting the wheels and wheelwells, they can be cut out as a separate layer, the body foreshortened, and the wheelwells pasted right back in place. This is undoubtedly what was done here.

For example, look at the refrigerator grilles behind the door with a magnifying glass. The front edges of the grilles have been partially cut off during the modification and the area just doesn't look quite right. This is right at the vertical area where the wheel well cuts into the door.
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Smile Inquiring minds

For those who haven't seen the ad and wonder what the heck we're talking about, here's a larger scan.
Hey, are those other Airstreams in the reflections?
The plot thickens.
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As I posted above, I believe that it is a heavily PhotoShopped 22' Safari, the successor to the 22' International AS that I owned before my current Classic.
Thanks for the excellent assessment, John! I'm not nearly sophisticated enough to recognize those clues.

The next question is why did Reese feel it necessary to photoshop the trailer at all? It's clearly an Airstream, and photoshopping the trailer doesn't change the copyright on the image... 'spose they're trying to avoid the VW-style trashing they'd get for over-loading a smaller TV with a trailer that's too large?

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The next question is why did Reese feel it necessary to photoshop the trailer at all? It's clearly an Airstream, and photoshopping the trailer doesn't change the copyright on the image... 'spose they're trying to avoid the VW-style trashing they'd get for over-loading a smaller TV with a trailer that's too large?

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I suspect that the ad person was given some file photos and asked to compose the ad. If the Airstream had been any longer, it wouldn't have fit well on the page. As it is, I think the Airstream may be just a tad smaller than real life in comparison to the tow vehicle.

Let's face it. Except for us true Airstream fans, virtually no one would notice any anomaly.
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Looking at the yellow lines on the pavement, I'd say he's going to put a heck of a dent in the stone guard when he tries to make it around the curve.
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I dont think that it was in tow when the pictures used to compile this photo were taken, look in the reflection on the side of the Tow vehicle.
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Starting to get some doubts

A little more prowling around the ad with a magnifying glass has started to raise some doubts in my mind. I don't find a stove vent which should be on the curb side of a Safari 22' Also, the water heater is not where I would expect it. The artist may have deleted the stove vent (easy), but wouldn't have transplanted the water heater

I find enough similarity between the two wheels that I now think that this may be a photo of a, possibly older, 19' Bambi where the PhotoShop artist has simply stretched the wheel well and duplicated the single wheel, making it look like a tandem axle and thus a larget trailer.

I don't think that the wide stripe down the side has appeared on really recent trailers and the newest Safaris don't have the trim strip around the belt line; they have only the lap joint between top and bottom skins.

I can't make heads or tails out of the reflecions.
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The 1999 Safari line used a wide stripe. I'm not sure what 2000 did and I had a 2001 so I'm clear there. My guess is that this is a 1999 Safari.

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I had noticed the reversed image when I got my issue, but didn't pay much attention beyond that. My guess is that the artist forshortened the image to fit the back cover without cropping so the vertical hight would be correct and the width would fit then reversed it for composition. You can tell that the "belt line" doesn't end smoothly and the trailer is way too close to the back of the SUV.
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