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Old 07-07-2019, 06:21 AM   #1
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Fellow Airstreamers :
I am new to the Airstream Club and new to this site, so if what I am posting on this post is inappropriate, just let me know as I learn.
We are finding it very challenging to find good RV parks as were traveling on the road. We do our research to find our final destination, but as we travel to our destinations we must stop at RV parks along the way. I want to let you know about a very poor experience at KOA in Terre Haute Indiana. I won’t go into great detail on this post, for time sake. Unless you asked me to.
That KOA is very unprofessional and we will never ever ever stop there again. At this point I’m going to try not to categorize and say all KOA’s are appropriate. But I will see how the experiences go in the future. Your experience’s are most welcome as far as finding nice RV parks while on the road.
Thank You, happy travels.
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Old 07-07-2019, 06:28 AM   #2
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Feedback is good.

To keep things fair and balanced, I will say that the KOA in Limon Colorado is well run and we stay there frequently.
The KOA in Dubois WY is lovely.
The KOA in Goodland KS is quite nice.

We are staying at KOAs for 7 nights of our upcoming 2 week vacation.

We have only stayed at ones in the West that are on vacation routes, so maybe that has more to do with our good experiences.

Sorry that you had a poor one.
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Old 07-07-2019, 06:31 AM   #3
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To answer your second question about how to find good RV parks on the road.

I keep a digital folder of places to stay in Evernote (you could use drop box or a file on your computer).

When I see a place that people say they like, I do a screen capture and then save it for future use.


I also post trip recaps and tell people about good places I know of to help others.

Some people will post before a trip their overall route, and ask for places to stay and things to do along the way. This is a good way to gather information.

Also there is a facebook group called Airstream Addicts that is very active and helpful.
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Old 07-07-2019, 06:35 AM   #4
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We’ve stayed at a couple of KOA campgrounds that we’re marginal. Most were nice. Recently spent a week in the KOA at South Padre Island,TX which was very nice. We prefer COE, BLM and state and national parks. Mike
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Old 07-07-2019, 06:38 AM   #5
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Hi Jerry

You will find campgrounds that get great reviews and some that do not live up to the reviews. Most of the time it is an owner who does not have the personality to be running a campground or in your case a KOA.

I pulled several reviews for this park and in your case, it does seem the owner has a less than desirable personality trait.

"We have been full-time travelers for six years. Never, have we been treated with such disrespect from a park owner. Our overnight pull-through was extremely un-level. To make matters worse, it was pouring rain and the space was nothing but mud. Our 40 foot motorhome would have tipped over if we tried to level. The girl who checked us in offered the adjacent space, which was OK. We accepted and we went to the office to make the change. Subsequently, the park owner came to the office and said we could not have the better site, even though it was not reserved. He disputed the dilapidated condition of the site and refused to go look at it. At that time he said, "you're out of here". We were shocked that he was going to kick us out because we simply asked for a different site. When I told him that we didn't have a place to stay for the night, his response was, "not my problem". I sent a complaint to KOA corporate. "
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Old 07-07-2019, 07:25 AM   #6
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You will find campgrounds that get great reviews and some that do not live up to the reviews. Most of the time it is an owner who does not have the personality to be running a campground or in your case a KOA.



I pulled several reviews for this park and in your case, it does seem the owner has a less than desirable personality trait.



"We have been full-time travelers for six years. Never, have we been treated with such disrespect from a park owner. Our overnight pull-through was extremely un-level. To make matters worse, it was pouring rain and the space was nothing but mud. Our 40 foot motorhome would have tipped over if we tried to level. The girl who checked us in offered the adjacent space, which was OK. We accepted and we went to the office to make the change. Subsequently, the park owner came to the office and said we could not have the better site, even though it was not reserved. He disputed the dilapidated condition of the site and refused to go look at it. At that time he said, "you're out of here". We were shocked that he was going to kick us out because we simply asked for a different site. When I told him that we didn't have a place to stay for the night, his response was, "not my problem". I sent a complaint to KOA corporate. "


Thank you for your thoughts and response. This problem sounds exactly what happened to us. This owner has a problem of doing business. He gives all KOA’s a bad name.
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Old 07-07-2019, 07:30 AM   #7
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We’ve stayed at a couple of KOA campgrounds that we’re marginal. Most were nice. Recently spent a week in the KOA at South Padre Island,TX which was very nice. We prefer COE, BLM and state and national parks. Mike



Please explain, COE, and BLM.
And yes we have stayed at State and Federal parks also. Quite a few State and Federal parks work, but we have found no sewer hookup at these parks. If we only stay a couple of days, it’s fine.
Thank You for your thoughts.
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Old 07-07-2019, 07:34 AM   #8
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Feedback is good.

To keep things fair and balanced, I will say that the KOA in Limon Colorado is well run and we stay there frequently.
The KOA in Dubois WY is lovely.
The KOA in Goodland KS is quite nice.

We are staying at KOAs for 7 nights of our upcoming 2 week vacation.

We have only stayed at ones in the West that are on vacation routes, so maybe that has more to do with our good experiences.

Sorry that you had a poor one.


Thank you for those positive places, we will put that on our list of places we could stop while passing through those areas.
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Old 07-07-2019, 07:55 AM   #9
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We generally found koas okay to very good. Better than most cg.
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Old 07-07-2019, 09:28 AM   #10
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We dont love KOAs, and mostly stay in National or State parks, for overnights while traveling in the west we often stay at Casinos because the sites are safe and level (even if they lack other services like hookups) and we can get a good meal within walking distance.
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Please explain, COE, and BLM.
And yes we have stayed at State and Federal parks also. Quite a few State and Federal parks work, but we have found no sewer hookup at these parks. If we only stay a couple of days, it’s fine.
Thank You for your thoughts.
Jerry
COE = Core of Engineers/ US Army campgrounds at sites like dams.
BLM=Bureau of Land Management/ lots of federal land out west is BLM. You can camp pretty much anywhere on BLM land, there are also some developed campsites.
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Unless you asked me to.
That KOA is very unprofessional and we will never ever ever stop there again.
Jerry
There is a place on this forum for reviews but am not sure how much they are used. If you google campground reviews you will find a few websites that has a wider audience if you want to leave your comments.
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COE - Corps of engineers parks are federal parks located at Corps projects. Usually lakes or river developments. The ones we have used had electric and water. There was a dump station at the entrance to the park. We like them, but the number of these parks is limited.

BLM - Bureau of Land Management land is federal land that is undeveloped and available for use with a permit. Cost is minimal. Many find the open environment suited to their boon docking RV lifestyle. Caution is advised as services are limited or non-existant. Review the boon docking thread for info.

KOAs - generally they are a given. Many, and I suppose the one you visited are owned and run by folks who no longer have the funding or motivation to run a top flight operation. Tis the case with other parks too. However, there are KOAs that have changed hands and are improving each year. Limon CO is an example. Helps that the owners has an AS 30 parked in the front. His managers are very nice folks as well.

Now - the problem with KOAs is that the business model placed them in close proximity to major highways. Easy access, but constant traffic noise. We find that parks a bit off the highway and train tracks make for better stays. There are exceptions. The KOA in Montrose CO is just a short distance from the airport. But it's in the right direction and well run. The KOA in Durango is a bit of both. There are sites close to the highway and sites toward the back that are buffered from noise. It was built long before the highway was expanded and got so busy. Thats the way time has treated our RV parks. The KOA in Eureka Springs Arkansas is similar. They built along the road. The traffic noise travels up the road into the sites at the back entrance. They are building new back away from the road. The park will get better, but watch which site you take for now. It makes a difference.

What KOAs are - something normally predictable - something a bit more expensive - something therefore often available - and something you can always complain or complement depending on your perspective.

Get a Passport America catalog. Review their parks and join if they work for you. Some old, some long in the tooth, some brand new and perfect for a good night that is reasonably priced. You have to deal with restrictions on popular places, but some just want to fill their sites regularly.

Good luck with your travels - hope to see you down the road. Pat
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Old 07-07-2019, 10:09 AM   #14
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We use KOA a lot because they are mostly reliably well-maintained, clean. Sometimes for enroute overnights and sometimes for a week. Our local KOA is an award winner and a nice place to do a Spring shakedown, or a night before going home when I need to empty tanks.
However, we have found about 10% of the KOA's where we have stayed to have serious problems, ranging from horrible sites to horrible management. You cannot believe the KOA reviews because they are mostly glowing, but if you read a lot of them, you will find some reviews are more honest and suggest that maybe the flaws are too much for the price. Our club has a rally at a KOA next year where I vowed I would never return..and won't. Problem is, there are no better alternatives in that area as we have tried them all.
In the end, nothing beats Allstays for us in finding campgrounds and linking to reviews.
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