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Old 11-01-2012, 09:50 PM   #15
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Driving for economy -- if that is an interest -- has it's own forums. And, while Dodge Cummins Diesel Forum is pretty good (any posts by Cerberusiam, Steelhead, and AH64ID [guys mainly on the 3rd Gen pages] are gold), be aware that there are a lot of kids. IOW, those who will trade every few years and have interests different than reliability and longevity.

I'm sure there are some good contributors on the 4th Gen, but I'd sure caution about changing anything that is factory-set. The complication/sophistication level on these latest diesels is far beyond what was necessary pre-2007.

The main mpg changes will be up to 30k. Stick with factory procedures in all things, IMO. It may be that some filters (the item, not the component housing it), etc, are better than dealership quality, and in this I'd look for the info that provides insight.

Back to economy. Keep records of all gallons and all miles. Ones baseline mpg is also a matter of average mph. Percentage gains to these numbers are what matter, not highs or lows.

I increased my mpg (see sig) by driving fewer miles to accomplish the same ends. And then drove the remaining miles at a higher skill level (22-mpg average for the past 37k miles). It is possible, if one is willing, to exceed the online forum reported averages. An overall matter of driver discipline which most are not willing to apply.

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Old 11-01-2012, 10:24 PM   #16
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Freedomrider, I believe we saw your new Airstream on the production line at Jackson Center a couple weeks ago. Congratulations, truck and Airstream gorgeous.

On the Andersen hitch Rednax has been thread-hopping bashing it even though he doesn't know beans about it. Check my recent posts, we have been using it for 3,500 miles and it is performing perfectly, and it's ride on rough and segmented concrete roadways is superior to perhaps any other due to its unique design that eliminates the weight distribution "spring" bars. That's good for you and your Airstream's backbones.

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Old 11-01-2012, 10:36 PM   #17
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Thanks all. Just wanted to post a photo of our new baby. Brought it home a couple of days ago. Already put 900 miles on it, no tow. Fuel mileage was 13.6 mpg at 75 mph and 16.6 mpg at 70 mph. Will lower speed next time out. Sure hope it gets better! Also, just added a cap.
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Old 11-01-2012, 11:02 PM   #18
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I'm starting to feel sorry for you guys upset at anyone pointing out what may be the shortcoming of a hitch you bought: that it can't do the basic job of weight-distribution except on the lightest combinations. Which the OP doesn't have.

I wouldn't recommend he settle for a friction bar hitch, either. The former can't seem to do the job of WD, and the latter is unacceptable at anti-sway. That there are far better alternatives is to him to read on be it the PRO PRIDE or the older, less efficient HENSLEY ARROW or the PULLRITE would be more to the point given his high dollar, heavy, rig. An EQUAL-I-ZER or a DUAL CAM are also better choices, second tier though they are to the first three.

The only "expert" around here is Andrew_T of CAN AM RV, and he's already weighed in with this post as well as another a few more down on the ANDERSEN thread. If someone can show this hitch can do the basics -- in which I am/was also interested due to low weight & cost -- then let's see it.

Anecdote doesn't cut it. Nor do PM's afraid of the light of day. Numbers first, then opinion. As before, the vehicle manufacturers require a WDH, but only recommend anti-sway once TW reaches a certain point. A hitch only good at the latter misses the mark entirely when other hitches with a long record are available.

That people like their hitch is irrelevant. I "like" my VPP style hitch even though I've had to change the hitch receiver and the stinger several times to get it to the do the job in the right way. The entire point of setting up a hitch on a certified weight scale is to remove doubt as to efficiency, and to establish a baseline of performance for any changes in the future. And those changes may be to either of the two vehicles where the need to know the forces involved is central to problem-solving.

Guessing is acceptable to many. It is the backbone of the truism that 90% of all trailers are improperly hitched. For those who'd rather work inside reality there are no substitutes for verifiable numbers, be it tire pressure, lug nut torque or proper distribution of trailer tongue weight.

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Old 11-01-2012, 11:53 PM   #19
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Your right Rednax. With the proper WD hitch set up he should be able to tow there 85k new rig with a VW Jetta that Andrew T will proudly help them with up in the great white north.

Sorry everyone. I've stooped to a new low. ;(. Anyway great looking truck. A tad bit north of 18 mpg hyway would be tops in my experience. You need to remember dodge dumps raw fuel into the system to burn off soot. I'm sure you didnt spend 60k on the truck just to worry about mpg's, so go forth and enjoy your new adventure.

Pay no mind to the blowhards lurking in depts of the forums that try to confuse and make you question why you bothered to wake up in morning.
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Old 11-02-2012, 12:20 AM   #20
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Rednax continues to present opinions about the Andersen hitch he does't know beans about. Lots words with no substance.

Several of us are using (he has never seen one) it with great success.

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Old 11-02-2012, 07:05 AM   #21
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Better to get a PRO-PRIDE (or PULLRITE) and be done with this question. An inferior hitch (even if it operated correctly) is not one's friend when it matters.

Good to see the tire upsize, etc. And, as with others, congratulations on a very, very nice rig!

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Old 11-03-2012, 10:40 AM   #22
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Hi All,

Thanks for all the well meaning advice. It is much appreciated. I have just found out this morning, that the dealership has received our Airstream. Just like a baby being born, I will be nervous until we get her home.

Will post pictures in a couple of weeks. We will have to pick her up in Michigan.


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Freedomrider,

Congrats on your new purchase! My wife and I live in Hagerstown, MD and are looking at the same setup that you just purchased. Once you get your trailer all hooked up and running, be sure to let me know how well it pulls over the moutain on I-68.

That question is is my head and want to be sure that the combo can climb those at the speed limit That's the bar that I set for myself in my tow rig.

We are still in the shopping and learning stage at this point.

Congtrats again.
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That there are far better alternatives is to him to read on be it the PRO PRIDE or the older, less efficient HENSLEY ARROW or the PULLRITE would be more to the point given his high dollar, heavy, rig.
Yes, with that much money invested why not complete the pkg with a high end connection.
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Old 03-10-2013, 02:54 PM   #25
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For better mpgs, the warranty will have to go bye bye. Delete all the emmissions stuff, put on a good flowing exhaust, slap in a cold air intake, and get a programmer and set it on economy mode. Youll be seeing closer to 25+ empty. But youll have a ton of money sank in it with no warranty to fall back on.

I know a cold air intake wont void a warranty and a chip can be set back to stock for warranty work, but im not so sure on the exhaust side of it.
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:28 AM   #26
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Hi All,

db10svn - you are looking at a great set-up. We love this set-up and if we had to do it all over again, we would do it again. We have pulled our Airstream over 1000 miles over varies terrain. We have not seen it all, but I am confident this rig can handle anything the road has to offer. Just getting familiar with everything, but I do like the exhaust brake and the Tow Haul mode. We will be going out again this week for 3 days at Ft. Meade. Last week we did three days at Andrews AFB. We store our unit in Frederick at Bowman"s. We highly recommend them. Very safe and secure.
Let us know how it goes.

Road Ruler - We have the Reese set-up. I have to admit, now that I have finally learned how to hook and unhook it, and to back it up, I like it. Of course that's all I know. If there are other advantages to a better hitch, I would like to know about. Learning to back this up was a big deal. What the difference with a Pro Pride?

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Freedomrider, That sure is good to know. Bowman's is a nice place and has the covered storage that I like. I had not thought about storing there, but it would be nice in the wintertime to keep it out of the snow. Thanks for all of your responses. You're really helping us narrow our search down.
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Freedomrider,

We recently said good bye to our 2006 25 Safari, and Just picked up our 2103 27FB Classic. We hope to see you down the road. We have signed up to the Birthday Bash over the July 4th weekend. There are 19 people signed up so far.

We also the 16" Michelin's and Solar Package.

We have the Reese Dual Cam hitch. Our plans are to upgrade our TV in about 4 years or so.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f290...ur-100505.html

Safe travels -- hope you can make it to the Bash
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