Thought I'd share the fun I was having all day with our "helping my sister" scammer who posted a 74 Safari in NC.
I hope the length of the dialogue helps others pick up on the scam.
They seem not to know what to do with the request for a photo of the VIN plate....must have forgot to get that one.
First of all my sister is OK, the baby was OK since he was born, she is the one who had complications but now she`s a lot better, thanks for asking.
They will ship, in fact that`s the only option, they will ship the camper to the address you will provide in the registration form when you register. You will not pay any extra fees because the service is completely free for buyers. They picked it up so i don`t know which warehouse they have it located and i honestly don`t care because like i said the pick up is not possible and even if i know it`s not relevant, all i know is they have it nearby and the delivery must take maximum 3 or 4 days or less. So they must have it somewhere close.
You don`t need any transaction number before you register, they will know who is the seller and the item because you will enter my email address in the registration form which is firstname.lastname@example.org
and they will know it`s me and they know what i`m selling. They will notify me that someone registered, they will tell me your name and i will have to agree or decline, of course i will agree and they will send you the invoice. After that i already explained the rest of the process. I am sorry to hear about your wife and makes me sad when i see how many people have all kind of problems, gets me depressed too. I guess it`s not "all roses" for anybody.
Anyway, let me know if you have other questions...
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Jim <email@example.com> wrote:
I think I misunderstood....they will ship the trailer to me? Sorry - You've said it a couple times but it didn't finally register until you said that they didn't do pick-ups. Do you know what location they are shipping from? Can I pay more to have it expedited? I really need to make sure it arrives on time otherwise I need to plan to go in tents and prepare much differently for our trip. I did check there website, but doesn't indicate they have a location in NC - where did you have to take the trailer to or did they come pick it up?
I think $3400 is a very fair price for the condition you've described, so let me finish what I think I need to do on my side. I might have to wait until Friday to complete the transacton as that is payday, but I'll see if I can move some bills around this week. Being the end of the month and our history over the last year, our landlord is a bit touchy about getting on-time payments by the 1st.
Were you able to contact EZ about taking the pictures of the title and the VIN plate? Also do you have a transaction # that's required or referenced on the EZ website? How will I or they know which item to invoice for?
Btw, in all the "business" and questions, I forgot to mention that I hope everything is ok with your sister and the baby. My wife has epilepsy and has had seizures ever since our sons were born further complicated by deep periods of depression and anxiety. So I know exactly how difficult these times can be. Spending time at the beach seems to really help her mood - so I'm really looking forward to making this all work out, our family could really use a break. I was fortunate enough to find a permanent job in May after being out of work for almost a year, so this is our first "big" purchase after getting back on our feet. I know a couple thousand may not seem like much, but when you're used to scratching out enough and still not paying the bills, it really changes your perspective.
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Deborah U. <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
I am sorry but they will require the full payment, sorry if that is a problem for you. No problem with the questions and unfortunately that is correct, they do not allow pick up or viewing it because they keep them in their warehouses and only their staff has access there.
It has a NC title and like i said before the title is already in their possession already signed by me and notarized. They will hand you the title to verify it at the delivery but they will transfer it in your name only after the 10 days money back guarantee is over and you confirm you agree with the purchase. The service is completely free for you, you will not pay any additional fees, all the fees are covered from their commission.
Let me know if you need anything else.
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Jim <email@example.com> wrote:
Hemm. So you're saying there's absolutely no way to actually see/touch the trailer before committing funds to Ez? Sorry if this is a basic question...just haven't used ebay or craiglist to purchase anything as sizable as this before. Isn't there a way to make a deposit instead, say $400 and thne be able to inspect but not take ownership?
Also how does transfer of title work. What state is the trailer titled in? Does EZ issue a title in my state?
Also since there's a third party involved are any sales taxes involves?
Thanks for your patience....much appreciated!
On Jul 27, 2011 4:34 PM, "Deborah U." <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> Hello, that is really cute, but unfortunately i don`t have a copy of the
> title because when i left the title and the trailer in their possession, i
> forgot to make a copy of it, sorry about that. My bottom price is $3400 with
> everything included. They are not holding the large items or the items sold
> through craigslist at their stores because they have different selling
> policies. They are holding them at their closest warehouse and that`s where
> they will ship them from.That means that items sold on Craigslist are not
> available for pick up. If you look on their website on the "selling on ebay
> and Craigslist" you`ll see what i`m talking about.
> On ebay items are purchased at auction and the buyers are verified by ebay,
> so if an auction closes and there is a winner then that person is verified
> by ebay and will purchase the item for sure, but they don`t have a 10 day
> money back guarantee available for items sold through ebay.
> On craigslist it is impossible to verify the buyer, that`s why the different
> selling procedure, the payment (or the deposit) is requested before the item
> ships and they offer a 10 day inspection period. The payment is being held
> in one of their accounts until you receive the item and inspect it and if
> it`s exactly as described then they will release the payment to me, if not
> they will give you a refund. If you do not agree with this i am very sorry
> and i understand but that is how they work and i used them before Let me
> know if you understand.
> Thank you
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Jim <email@example.com> wrote:
>> Thanks Deborah for the quick response.
>> The airstream Looks really really good. Just showed my boys who are 3 and
>> 6 the pix and they are really excited. They are turning over their piggy
>> bank savings to help make the purchase.
>> I just need to get two more items from you or the EZ-T. I need a fax or
>> pdf copy of the current title. Sounds like you're pretty experienced with
>> this so i assume you made a copy of what you gave to EZ-t.
>> Also i need a photo of the VIN plate on the Airstream....these plates have
>> specific info on them that my insurance company has said they need to issue
>> and update my policy. Something about my TV and the exact weights imprinted
>> on these plates.
>> When I get these additional pix and close with the insurance company i
>> think we're getting close to a possible deal. What is your bottom line on
>> price? Do you have some room to negotiate?
>> I'll do some checking into EZ...i am sure i'll have some questions later.
>> Where physically is the trailer? Can ez arrange for an inspection for
>> tomorrow or Thursday?
>> On Jul 27, 2011 1:01 PM, "Deborah U." <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
>> > I'm glad you are still interested. There you have the pictures. This is a
>> > very clean trailer, no need for any repairs any time soon. It has no
>> > tears, the floor is in excellent condition, everything inside it works
>> > great. It has no structural damage. The title is in the EZT's possession
>> > well, already signed by me and notarized so they will be responsible for
>> > title transfer. Oh...and the title is clear.
>> > Like I said before I will be happy to walk you through the process. EZT
>> > short for E-Z Transactions and their website is www.ez-transactions.com
>> > maybe now this sounds familiar to you. As they describe themselves, "E-Z
>> > Transactions is a safe payment system for the Internet that protects both
>> > buyer and seller from various forms of online fraud".
>> > I left the trailer in their possession last week and I just listed it
>> > recently on craigslist. The fact that I'm not home will not affect the
>> > selling procedure through this service. So the process goes like this: if
>> > you decide to purchase it, you must register on their website and they
>> > send you an invoice with the payment instructions and the transaction
>> > details. You send the payment to them and as soon as the payment is
>> > confirmed they will start the shipping process, which usually takes
>> > 3 and 5 working days. As soon as you will receive the trailer, a 10 Day
>> > money Back Guarantee starts (which is a standard guarantee for all items
>> > listed on Craigslist) and you can inspect it and see if it's everything
>> > expected. This guarantee allows you to return the trailer if by any
>> > something is wrong with it, my description was not accurate or I failed
>> > specify something about it's condition. Basically you can return the
>> > with no questions asked and if that's the case the returning process will
>> > free of charge for you, I will be held responsible for all costs. If you
>> > like the trailer and accept it, then you'll sign that you accept it and
>> > will transfer the payment to me.
>> > I forgot to mention that the complete process is free of charge for you,
>> > listed price on craigslist already includes all the fees including the
>> > shipping and handling, so there is no reason to be scared for any extra
>> > fees, there are none. The process is very simple and secure, it may sound
>> > little complicated because I had to explain the whole deal in details, it
>> > really isn't complicated at all. I hope you are still interested and if
>> > would like to start the process you need to register at
>> > www.ez-transactions.com
. If that's the case please make sure you
>> > the process and read the terms and conditions listed on their website
>> > you register. I will be glad to answer any questions you may have.
>> > Thanks
>> > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Jim <email@example.com> wrote:
>> >> Ok can you send me you acct info then....let's see if we can make
>> >> happen here. I need to close quickly. Beach camping in 2 weeks and it
>> >> will be on my way to OBX.
>> >> REALLY NEED TO SEE PIX THOUGH.
>> >> NO PIX, NO $$$$.
>> >> Tx!
>> >> On Jul 27, 2011 12:35 PM, "Deborah U." <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
>> >> > I still have it available but unfortunately I am not home and I can't
>> >> sell
>> >> > it myself because my sister had a baby and she had some complications
>> >> she
>> >> > is still under medical care. Her husband asked me if I can come and
>> >> > care of things around the house until she gets better. This is no
>> >> > for me as far as the transaction is concerned because I was selling
>> >> > through EZ anyway. I believe you know what EZ is if you buy and sell
>> >> online
>> >> > often, if you don't I'll be glad to walk you through the process. Let
>> >> > know if you are still interested and I'll be happy to answer any
>> >> questions
>> >> > you may have.
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> >
>> >> > Deborah