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Old 04-04-2017, 04:01 PM   #29
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Re: Southwest Desert "Haboobs"

TBRich's quote: "Pull off the road as far as you can, turn your lights OFF and wait it out. (Turning your lights off sounds counter-intuitive, but if you have your lights on someone may see you, assume you are moving and crash right into you.)"

Added note: Keep your foot off of the brake pedal, too.

Personally, we look for an exit ramp or rest area to stop. If these are nearby, it's better to get completely off of the roadway and shoulder. Or, if semi's have stopped, park in front of one; and use it as a protective crash barrier.

In most cases, southwest desert dust storms (a.k.a., "haboobs") are short-lived weather fronts and will pass in a few minutes. However, depending on the exact nature of the storm system, they can last several hours or more.
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Old 04-04-2017, 04:16 PM   #30
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Personally, we look for an exit ramp or rest area to stop. If these are nearby, it's better to get completely off of the roadway and shoulder.
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Precisely! We were going north on I-5 from LA to San Francisco, and hit very heavy fog in the central valley north of the LA mountains. Dense and impenetrable.

Cars were flying by us, as we crawled along with our emergency flashers on, praying for the next exit to arrive soon. [in the 90's before GPS and electronic maps.] Sure enough we were able to exit and wait a few hours in a truck stop, napping in the AS, until the fog lifted.

There was a multi-vehicle accident on the stretch of road we had just avoided, with fatalities!

Sometimes being in a hurry is simply a headlong rush toward death.

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Old 04-04-2017, 04:40 PM   #31
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It Depends

The answer to your question is it depends as everybody has a different degree of perceived risk tolerance, tow vehicle, hitch set up, and timetable for getting to where they are going.

If it had been us in your situation, visibility would have been the deciding factor as the wind speeds you described would have been a total non-issue while pulling our 27FB with our sway control.

Having said that, if you're in situations where you are not sure, you can never go wrong hunkering down in a safe place and waiting out adverse conditions.
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Old 04-04-2017, 06:11 PM   #32
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The answer to your question is it depends as everybody has a different degree of perceived risk tolerance, tow vehicle, hitch set up, and timetable for getting to where they are going.

If it had been us in your situation, visibility would have been the deciding factor as the wind speeds you described would have been a total non-issue while pulling our 27FB with our sway control.

Having said that, if you're in situations where you are not sure, you can never go wrong hunkering down in a safe place and waiting out adverse conditions.
Thanks for the input. That was the decision point for us after considering all the other factors (TV, hitch, timing). We are glad it worked out and we also had back up plan to stop or turnaround if necessary.
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Old 04-04-2017, 06:16 PM   #33
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Update #2: I-10 definitely required our attention and hands on the wheel throughout, especially next to those 18 wheelers. The 1/2 Sierra w/ Max Tow held up really well pulling 25' Safari. Reese sway control did all the work in taking put the gusts. So so happy I am pulling an AS behind me.
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Old 04-04-2017, 07:02 PM   #34
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We left Santa Fe in route to Monument Valley today. Winds were high and gusty but we had very little problem pulling our 30' with our RAM 1500 with a Blue Ox hitch. It was cross wind from Santa Fe to Bernalello and then on our nose to Farmington and then it settled down. We have a guided jeep tour tomorrow morning so we needed to go. Weather is beautiful here at Goulding! As others have said, Airstream's tow much better than other trailers I have towed. We kept it at 60 in the crosswind and bumped it to 65 the rest of the way.
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Old 04-05-2017, 08:44 AM   #35
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Phoenix: "In most cases, southwest desert dust storms (a.k.a., "haboobs") are short-lived weather fronts and will pass in a few minutes. However, depending on the exact nature of the storm system, they can last several hours or more."

So... these storms are either short...or long.


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.... We have a guided jeep tour tomorrow morning so we needed to go. ....
The most common reason for wx-related accidents.... "we needed to go..."
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They closed Highway 10 for heavy winds last Friday it's been open since . If the road is open at Lordsburg to the Safford feeder, then you are probably okay
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Old 04-05-2017, 09:22 AM   #37
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To paraphrase an old saying from aviation, "It is far better to be parked wishing you were on the road, than on the road wishing you were parked."

Schedule be darned--we had 50 mile sustained winds with gusts to 65-70 in West Texas on one return trip. Had stabilizers down tight, and the rig was still rocking. Spent a nice day watching local TV and only as needed, walking the dogs. Their desire to go outside was tempered by the wind--they didn't like it either!

Even with a PP hitch, and a rig that tows nicely in the wind, it just was not worth the risk. YMMV...
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Old 04-05-2017, 10:38 AM   #38
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Hi All, currently parked at RV park in Roswell on our way home to San Diego, there's a high wind advisory, 15-40mph thruout the day in the local area. Wind is currently 17mph, will be in 30mph range in a couple of hours. Better to brave the wind and get out of area or stay put?
You could stay put but is often that windy in the area you are traveling through. Slowing down helps. Fifth wheels and class A motorhomes will be your canaries in the coal mine. If they are all pulling off of the road, you should too.
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You could stay put but is often that windy in the area you are traveling through. Slowing down helps. Fifth wheels and class A motorhomes will be your canaries in the coal mine. If they are all pulling off of the road, you should too.
Thanks, that was my other reference as well. I saw more staying on the road, helpful to see that others were doing fine.
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I knew it was windy in Kansas when birds were flying 5' off the ground. When they'd get to a tree they'd go up, over, and right back down. Never saw that before. The sky was blue without a cloud, but it was the "High Plains."
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I knew it was windy in Kansas when birds were flying 5' off the ground. When they'd get to a tree they'd go up, over, and right back down. Never saw that before. The sky was blue without a cloud, but it was the "High Plains."
It was so windy here in Estancia I saw a couple of prairie dogs in a dust cloud trying to dig themselves back down.
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"Slowing down helps." This is excellent advice. If the highway was absolutely straight from here to there, with no curves or hills, one could factor the wind into the speed and just drive. Unfortunately, there are very few roads like that. The wind that is dead on your nose right now might be coming from the left front in a half mile, then the right front, then back to on the nose, etc. As you drive you move through the front, or whatever happens to be creating the wind, and the wind is now coming from a different direction, even though you are still headed more or less in the same direction.

My personal preference is to have a headwind over a tailwind. Why? The headwind, or mostly headwind, is pushing on the steering axle, while a tailwind, or mostly tailwind, is pushing on the trailer. That makes the trailer try to steer the truck, rather than the other way around.
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