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Old 07-14-2003, 01:14 PM   #15
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Tim, as someone previously suggested, perhaps a move up to a 25', which would provide a separate bedroom, would do the trick. I'm assuming your Safari is a 22' or 23'. The extra 2' shouldn't make that big a difference in towing, but may make the world of difference in someone's overall attitude.

I hear ya. I just put sooooo much work into this one. I don't know if I could do it again!
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Old 07-14-2003, 02:10 PM   #16
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Tim,

I also hear ya on tackling another rehab job. I switched from a darn good lookin' Argosy over to a bigger Overlander this past winter. Lost a lot of sleep and almost shed a few tears to think of all the work that I had put into my Argosy but believe me, if the wife is happier that is all that matters. I just jumped on my Overlander and never looked back. I guess it helps in that I have rehabbed a few houses in my time, learned to never get too attached to anything. The good thing is if you did most of the work you can get all your money back out of it, maybe not the sweat but the money. Just try to time it right and not lose a lot of good camping weather and you'll be allright, I promise!!

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Old 07-14-2003, 02:25 PM   #17
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EEEK!

I agree about the 5th wheel things said. I'd look for a but larger or better floorplan than go 5th wheel. They are very nice, but they look like a PITA (Pain in the axx) to move and trailer about.

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Old 07-14-2003, 10:29 PM   #18
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Hey from Roze in Apex

Hiya Tim! So sorry I have not been in touch. It's been a whirlwind around here. If your wife rreeeallly wants a 5th wheel here's an Argosy on Ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2423547089

Hey would you please send me your contact info again and I'll send you mine? I cannot seem to remember which folder I stored it in. Had some surgery a few weeks back and fell 'out of the loop'. Would still LOVE to see your "Silver Palace" if you are up for a visit.

Look forward to catching up.
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Old 07-15-2003, 06:32 AM   #19
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That Argosy is up to $8000 now. Yesterday the high bid was only $3500.
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Old 07-15-2003, 12:52 PM   #20
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I'd have your wife look a little deeper at most any 5th wheel --- past the staples, plastic, cardboard and see how they are made. Check with folks with slideouts and leaks - slideouts that don't close/open properly - slideouts that have to be open to use the "pot" - etc. Plus the set of stairs to gain access - the stairs inside to the bedroom (up front, normally). Sure, there is more space-harder to cool and heat come to mind. Then there is the value of the 5th wheel after a few years. Larger tow vehicle - $$ hitch (but hitch can be removed from P/U bed and placed out of the way, so that is not a problem).. ..

I sure like our 31' A.S. !!!!

Planning a short trip now with daughters/family - they have motorhome.

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Old 07-27-2003, 09:28 AM   #21
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Additional considerations regarding the 5th wheel.

1. They are hard to get in and out of due to the height. Remember also this means hard to pack and unpack while climbing stairs with both hands loaded.

2. In most models you must climb a small stair to get to the bathroom then another small step up into the bedroom. Now for that drink of water in the middle of the night you must go down flights of steps to get to the kitchen area.

3. Investigate the number of falls inside fifth wheels trailers. You will be in shock. I had ignored this untill my mother fell shattering her ankel. She walks with a terrible limp today because of a fifth wheel falling accident.

4. Check out the weight of the trailer and then the legal weight your tow vehicle will handel. This may be of a surprise also. Many fifth wheel owners are operating illegal due to weight. Simply put the tow vehicles capability is exceeded.
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Old 07-27-2003, 09:34 AM   #22
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Wink ..and if all else fails....

...Divorce???

Of course you know I'm kidding....
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Old 07-27-2003, 09:50 AM   #23
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I think I have a handle on it....

All I have to do is remind her that the truck is paid for, and the trailer is paid for.

If I wanted a new 5th wheel = $300/mo and new truck to haul it $500/mo.

She understands that real quick

Actually we just got back from South Lake Tahoe with the trailer a week ago and everyone had a great time.

Can't beat $100 for four nights in the trailer when a hotel is around $90 a night....
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Another simple way to go foe space is the Airstream wide body they are about 7 or 8 (?) inches wider and it actually make a huge difference in overall space.

I like towing 5th wheel horse trailers but I look at even the best (?) built RV ones and they are pure crapola. Staples, glue, 2x2 wood framing.... the overload point is a good one too. Many offer tremendous storage space for about 100lbs of available weight capacity.
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