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Old 02-09-2018, 10:26 PM   #29
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Here's my two cents.
First- truck.
You can of course go with a fancy schmancy SUV and pretend it's rated for the tow. Or, throw your waste tank, gas tanks, generators and all those ugly items in the SUV one week
and have friends relatives or kids sitting in that same place later.
Kinda like eating food in a bathroom.
Then get a truck rated higher than you need.
Then, if possible, diesel. People who defend gas are people who purchased gas.
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Old 02-10-2018, 03:57 AM   #30
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In October 2012, I drove my 2007 Mercedes ML320 CDI turbo diesel from Phoenix to CanAm in London, Ontario, Canada to have the hitch modification made so a weight distribution hitch could be used when towing. They also slightly bent the Hensley Arrow stinger to help preload the springs and drilled a new hole in it to bring the tongue weight closer to the rear of the car. I then drove to Los Angles tp pickup our new 2013 25FB International Serenity. It had street side and rear awnings added, a 155 watt solar panel on the roof, a Hensley Arrow hitch and full propane and fresh water tanks as I pulled away. I had no issues climbing out of Palm Springs up I-70 or cruising at 55 mph.

After loading the trailer with all of our stuff, we drove to the scales and the car was not happy with the load as the trailer scaled close to 7,000 pounds. There was my wife and me in the car and no generators or other camping gear in the car.

Drove back from Indiana in a new 2012 Ram 2500HD Cummins 4x4 and stopped in Iowa for a complete Kelderman level ride air bag suspension front and rear. Other substantial modifications have been done and this is the perfect tow vehicle for our 2014 31' Classic. We can take whatever we want in both the trailer and the cap covered rear bed of the truck along with a passenger or two. The retrofitted Titan 56 gallon fuel tank gives us over a 600 mile range when towing.

I can see 18 to 19 mpg running at interstate speeds not towing. I see 11.5 to 12 mpg towing. We limit ourselves to 65 mph max.

When I picked up the 2015 23D International Serenity in New Jersey, I drove the same Mercedes over and toward it back via CanAm to, get the hitch fine tuned by Andy Thompson, keeping the 55 mph max speeds. I had no issues and this seems to be the perfect match for this car. The trailer scales 6,069 pounds loaded for camping. The axle loads are within specs in the Mercedes with the one propane powered Honda 2000 generator, a grill, an air compressor and two chairs plus the me and my wife.

So there are options for tow vehicles, but the weights, axle ratings, payload of both vehicles all have to be considered before signing any purchase orders.
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Old 02-10-2018, 05:03 AM   #31
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Here's my two cents.
First- truck.
You can of course go with a fancy schmancy SUV and pretend it's rated for the tow. Or, throw your waste tank, gas tanks, generators and all those ugly items in the SUV one week
and have friends relatives or kids sitting in that same place later.
Kinda like eating food in a bathroom.
Then get a truck rated higher than you need.
Then, if possible, diesel. People who defend gas are people who purchased gas.
I own both gas and diesel powered trucks. In the HD trucks either power plant has enough power to pull a 27í airstream quite well.

My diesel suburban just got new head gaskets at 300,000 miles (upgrade to new head studs and improved gaskets, not due to failure) and there was still crosshatch visible in the cylinders. Runs like new. Will probably outlast a lot of the newer small diesels. My 2000 Silverado 5.3, sold with 325,000 miles, still running around West Michigan as of last week. I shudder to think of what I towed and how I overloaded that poor truck over the years.

My 6.2L gas F350 will pull my 27í anywhere it needs to go with no issues. The new Chevy 6.0 has well over 400 horsepower. If you canít pull an airstream with one of the new HD trucks itís probably operator error.
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Old 02-11-2018, 08:08 PM   #32
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The whole package.

While some of your points may be worth mentioning, a 1500 (half-ton) rides like a Cadillac sedan while larger trucks ride like a truck. Not my cup of tea while on vacation.

Since you don't need a hammer to drive a tack my suggestion to the OP was merely based on getting the biggest bang for the buck. Cadillac ride, truck strength, enough torque for more than just Midwest flat lands, and the economy of a hybrid.

Granted, weather conditions play a very significant role in MPG, but my very best MPG recording with the family and payload (NOT towing), I39 at interstate speed, 30 MPG. No three-quarter or larger will get the OP those numbers. I regularly get 15 and 16 towing the TT.

It's just the whole package and not cherry-picking one issue. We looked at every point we would want for our millions of miles we dream of trailing. So far our first season has seen roughly 17,000 towing miles. Yep. Since March of 2017 to today we have traveled over 17,000 with our TT. We've hit 4,000 miles this run since last Thanksgiving.

If the smaller diesel gets the job done, I'll opt for style, comfort, and economy any day of the week.

Fortunately I don't need more than a half-ton and my post to the OP was there is no need to throw their money away on something they don't need.

I am not exaggerating on anything I've said here. Believe it or not. You can have your own opinion but you can't have your own facts.
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Old 02-11-2018, 08:24 PM   #33
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People who defend gas are people who purchased gas.

This is also true of those who bought diesel.
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Old 02-11-2018, 08:30 PM   #34
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I have and tow with a '14 Tundra. It's a very capable truck that balances well as a daily driver. BUT, if I were full timing I'd trade for a 3/4 ton at least. Which one? I'd lean towards RAM but I'm not really in the market so couldn't honestly say.
If toyota came out with a 3/4 ton tomorrow, I'd seriously consider it. As it stands, I'll drive mine into the dirt... I love Toyota's, have had 6. Had Ford's, a Chevy and a Ram.
Drive all manner of vehicles for work and still love Toyotas. They just care...
BTW, my truck was made less than 95 miles from my house.

Every so often take the trailer camping? Pretty much anything with a 6-cylinder and good TV weight.
Weekend Warrior? 1/2 ton, just watch your payload.
Fulltime? 3/4 to a 1 ton. Take it with you, you may want it.
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Old 02-11-2018, 08:50 PM   #35
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The whole package.

While some of your points may be worth mentioning, a 1500 (half-ton) rides like a Cadillac sedan while larger trucks ride like a truck. Not my cup of tea while on vacation.

Since you don't need a hammer to drive a tack my suggestion to the OP was merely based on getting the biggest bang for the buck. Cadillac ride, truck strength, enough torque for more than just Midwest flat lands, and the economy of a hybrid.

Granted, weather conditions play a very significant role in MPG, but my very best MPG recording with the family and payload (NOT towing), I39 at interstate speed, 30 MPG. No three-quarter or larger will get the OP those numbers. I regularly get 15 and 16 towing the TT.

It's just the whole package and not cherry-picking one issue. We looked at every point we would want for our millions of miles we dream of trailing. So far our first season has seen roughly 17,000 towing miles. Yep. Since March of 2017 to today we have traveled over 17,000 with our TT. We've hit 4,000 miles this run since last Thanksgiving.

If the smaller diesel gets the job done, I'll opt for style, comfort, and economy any day of the week.

Fortunately I don't need more than a half-ton and my post to the OP was there is no need to throw their money away on something they don't need.

I am not exaggerating on anything I've said here. Believe it or not. You can have your own opinion but you can't have your own facts.
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[QUOTE=upnorththree;2065652]While some of your points may be worth mentioning, a 1500 (half-ton) rides like a Cadillac sedan while larger trucks ride like a truck. Not my cup of tea while on vacation.

Since you don't need a hammer to drive a tack my suggestion to the OP was merely based on getting the biggest bang for the buck. Cadillac ride, truck strength, enough torque for more than just Midwest flat lands, and the economy of a hybrid.

Granted, weather conditions play a very significant role in MPG, but my very best MPG recording with the family and payload (NOT towing), I39 at interstate speed, 30 MPG. No three-quarter or larger will get the OP those numbers. I regularly get 15 and 16 towing the TT.

It's just the whole package and not cherry-picking one issue. We looked at every point we would want for our millions of miles we dream of trailing. So far our first season has seen roughly 17,000 towing miles. Yep. Since March of 2017 to today we have traveled over 17,000 with our TT. We've hit 4,000 miles this run since last Thanksgiving.

If the smaller diesel gets the job done, I'll opt for style, comfort, and economy any day of the week.

Fortunately I don't need more than a half-ton and my post to the OP was there is no need to throw their money away on something they don't need.

I am not exaggerating on anything I've said here. Believe it or not. You can have your own opinion but you can't have your own facts.[/

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Old 02-12-2018, 07:50 AM   #37
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Been there and done that. Save yourself a lot of thinking and go with a Ford F250 diesel. They are amazing trucks. You will not be lacking in any category. Ride, comfort, towing, payload all covered with this truck.
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Ride wise, go check out some trucks. If you have not been in a "large" truck for a while, you will be surprised at the ride. There is still a point that they *do* ride like a truck. That used to be the 150 (1500) / 250 (2500) break point. With Ford it's moved up to the 350 / 450 transition. Given the way everybody follows each other in the truck business, I'd bet the other brands have bumped up as well.

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If the smaller diesel gets the job done, I'll opt for style, comfort, and economy any day of the week.

Fortunately I don't need more than a half-ton and my post to the OP was there is no need to throw their money away on something they don't need.

I am not exaggerating on anything I've said here. Believe it or not. You can have your own opinion but you can't have your own facts.
Please, share your facts, that being your numbers and traveling gear, scaled weights and what those numbers include, you know just the facts...
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The OP posted this question 3.5 months ago and hasn't commented or posted since.

You guys are arguing amongst yourselves again...
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While some of your points may be worth mentioning, a 1500 (half-ton) rides like a Cadillac sedan while larger trucks ride like a truck. Not my cup of tea while on vacation.



Since you don't need a hammer to drive a tack my suggestion to the OP was merely based on getting the biggest bang for the buck. Cadillac ride, truck strength, enough torque for more than just Midwest flat lands, and the economy of a hybrid.



Granted, weather conditions play a very significant role in MPG, but my very best MPG recording with the family and payload (NOT towing), I39 at interstate speed, 30 MPG. No three-quarter or larger will get the OP those numbers. I regularly get 15 and 16 towing the TT.



It's just the whole package and not cherry-picking one issue. We looked at every point we would want for our millions of miles we dream of trailing. So far our first season has seen roughly 17,000 towing miles. Yep. Since March of 2017 to today we have traveled over 17,000 with our TT. We've hit 4,000 miles this run since last Thanksgiving.



If the smaller diesel gets the job done, I'll opt for style, comfort, and economy any day of the week.



Fortunately I don't need more than a half-ton and my post to the OP was there is no need to throw their money away on something they don't need.



I am not exaggerating on anything I've said here. Believe it or not. You can have your own opinion but you can't have your own facts.


With a payload over 750 lbs my 3500 HD rides smooth, close to the quality of my Sienna ride
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You guys are arguing amongst yourselves again...
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