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Old 02-14-2008, 06:36 PM   #29
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2air is correct. I have friends who stayed in these units they are more like the office trailers you see on construction sites, no tanks nothing. Some of the very first units were rv units but only the very first. Apples and Oranges.
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Old 02-14-2008, 07:04 PM   #30
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Truth is, a case could probably be made for inhaling too much campfire smoke - but I want to die happy!
And a good case at that! Campfires are beautiful but smog-like. But back to topic, does anyone know what '70s trailers interiors are made out of? Specifically, that ugly, plastic-y, sort of wood-looking laminate stuff that lasts forever looking just like the day it was made? Just curious about its toxicity, although I suppose there aren't much fumes left after 30 years.
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Fema Trailers

FEMA bought 40,000 of the first trailers from dealer inventory.

I have seen many of the FEMA trailers close up, did not see any Airstreams but saw a lot of nice double slide trailers from Holiday Rambler, Sunline, Jayco etc.

Many of the plain White boxes are from Gulfstream and interior is about all particle board.

I bought one of the auction trailers, it is Sunline Solaris with NO particle board and no noticeable smell. Trailer has all normal travel trailer fittings including awning.

Contrary to what you read on these forums trailer was spotlessly clean with very little sign of wear and tear.

Did see some that were totaly trashed out and were sold for salvage but majority were in fairly good condition for trailer that had been lived in for year or more.
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I am wondering if this question is going to raise a "cloud", but I remember this being publicised maybe a year ago. Why is it again being dragged through the public mudhole? I would hope the answer is not purely political, and it was genuinely the resident's best interests that were the cause.
Me thinks he's on to the truth. This is just one of the early salvo's in what is going to be a very ugly election year. Just by way of example, since the broadcast news media has essentially turned into "entertainment" hiding behind the First Amendment, does anybody really trust these people to act as if they are actually exercising that right in truly good faith for the people? Not a chance.

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And a good case at that! Campfires are beautiful but smog-like. But back to topic, does anyone know what '70s trailers interiors are made out of? Specifically, that ugly, plastic-y, sort of wood-looking laminate stuff that lasts forever looking just like the day it was made? Just curious about its toxicity, although I suppose there aren't much fumes left after 30 years.
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Mine are all made of plywood, the plastic-y stuff is basically formica (plastic laminate) I think the laminate in my 1975 is actually from WilsonArt, but haven't confirmed that. As far as toxicity, as long as you don't burn it, or eat it you should be fine. Never noticed any out gassing from it either. Particle board is particularly noxious stuff and I can assure you there is none in a 70's vintage Airstream...unless some PO snuck some in there.


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Old 02-14-2008, 09:24 PM   #34
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Do you really believe all that you here; Maybe this thread should be combined with the problems that the FB trailers of Airstreram seem to have according to some people. I have a FB 25 ft. and love it but some people seem to complain about trailers in general than to tell about the good things that there trailers have . Wally always tried to make it better even if it did't work the first time he improved it may we should to . Just my two cents. Andy
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This discussion of formaldehyde in trailers is an old discussion.

I lived in a mobile during college days and new ones had a very strong odor and would burn your eyes when closed up during hot weather.

I think there was a discussion of banning formaldehyde years ago but, apparently the govt caved-in to lobbying.

I seem to remember that it was a discussion surrounding the plywood paneling in trailers. Lots of glue cementing plies together. I don't think cabinets, etc. were every much of the discussion. Just had a new kitchen put in the house last year and there was zero smell of formaldehyde.

I doubt there is much in an alum airstream to contribute. However, mine is 21 years old so it has had plenty of time to vent.
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FEMA bought 40,000 of the first trailers from dealer inventory.

I have seen many of the FEMA trailers close up, did not see any Airstreams but saw a lot of nice double slide trailers from Holiday Rambler, Sunline, Jayco etc.

Many of the plain White boxes are from Gulfstream and interior is about all particle board.

I bought one of the auction trailers, it is Sunline Solaris with NO particle board and no noticeable smell. Trailer has all normal travel trailer fittings including awning.

Contrary to what you read on these forums trailer was spotlessly clean with very little sign of wear and tear.

Did see some that were totaly trashed out and were sold for salvage but majority were in fairly good condition for trailer that had been lived in for year or more.
That is not the norm. I have seen many of them and still do very few are RV quality.
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Me thinks he's on to the truth. This is just one of the early salvo's in what is going to be a very ugly election year. Just by way of example, since the broadcast news media has essentially turned into "entertainment" hiding behind the First Amendment, does anybody really trust these people to act as if they are actually exercising that right in truly good faith for the people? Not a chance.

Terry, if this is too political, please delete it.

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Having watched the FEMA/CDC news conference I didn't get that sense. I felt FEMA/CDC were facing a problem and working to correct it. FEMA has improved since the storm. FEMA/CDC were acting on a problem and certainly not trying to cover it up. I wouldn't cal it a salvo not even a side show.
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That is not the norm. I have seen many of them and still do very few are RV quality.
I agree that most are the plain White boxes but everyone seems to think that all FEMA trailers are that type. FEMA seems unable to seperate the good from the bad and are going to destroy all of the trailers. I saw picture on news yesterday showing one of the FEMA parks and none of the trailers shown were the plain White box type.
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So 'ya think this "bad" stuff is only in your A/S?

DREAM-ON..done any new house shopping lately? They smell so toxic

you'd think them un-liveable.

Go to any urban area during rush hour and take a deep breath..hackhack.

Not really very worried about the A/S, sure it smelled awful on the

dealers lot, so much so that the co-pilot almost bailed out. Open it up,

let it vent...smells like "us" now. Is the crap still there?, probably, do I care?

yes. Will we let it interfere with our Stream'n?, not a chance!!

We're at this point now...WHY WORRY,BE HAPPY
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Well said Robert.
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many homes have lots of formaldehyde too, they just leak a little better.

the problem occurs when newer homes that are built tighter don't allow the off gassing (formaldehyde) from carpets, cabinetry, subfloors, glues, adhesives, etc to leak out of doors and windows as easily.

solution to the formaldehyde issue for homeowners;

1. buy cabinets that are formaldehyde free (will be more common in the near future)
2. don't use carpet in the house for a variety of reasons (offgassing, traps every kind of dirt and dander. there's a reason why old carpet weighs 3x more than new carpet).
3. use construction glues and adhesives that are low or no VOC.
4. use paint that is no VOC.

california is working on a standard to regulate the amounts of formaldehyde allowed in products, it's due out in 2010 or thereabouts.

indoor air quality is something that needs to be taken more seriously by people nowadays because more crap is put in products and houses are built tighter. the few suggestions i listed above is a start. also, incorporating a fresh air ventilation system into your house system is a big plus too (most houses that have heat or ac have a closed loop system which basically means it's recirculating the air within the house and i can bet you that if you live in smoggy los angeles, the outdoor air is going to be cleaner than what's in your house because of all the aerosols, cleaning compounds, offgassing of materials for years, etc that are contained within your home.
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Initially, FEMA went out to all of the RV dealers in the areas surrounding the disaster and bought regular RV trailers right from the dealers' lot....paying close to MSRP in the process. Dealers had a field day with that huge injection of sales from FEMA.

While they were doing this, they (FEMA) designed the ELU (emergency living unit) and took the plans to most of the large RV manufacturers. The OEMs essentially stopped production of their regular lines of trailers and built these ELUs for FEMA as fast as they could. These are the plain white boxes that have few windows, one air conditioner, no tanks, etc. They were built AS DESIGNED AND CONTRACTED FOR FEMA!!!!!!!!!!!

I had several buddies that worked setting these up in the Gulf states and then serviced them after. They were designed to be plumbed to a water line and connected to a septic system with a household style toilet in them. THEY WERE NEVER MEANT TO BE RVs!!!! AND THEY ARE NOT!!!!

I won't get into the formaldehyde issue, just thought that the record needed to be set straight from an RV professional's vantage point.
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