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Old 02-11-2003, 11:46 AM   #1
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Escalade-Hensley-25' Classic

IF (that is not yelling- is a big IF) I were to get an Escalade (tow capacity 8,000 lbs.-- the short Escalade with 6.0 engine,116 in. wheelbase) and a Hensley, would I be OK for towing?
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Old 02-11-2003, 12:54 PM   #2
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Question GVWR

Kistler,

What's the GVWR of your trailer?

One of the many rule of thumbs is that your trailer's GVWR should be 85% to 90% lower than your tow vehicle's max. cap.

So if that Caddy has a towing cap of 8000#'s, your trailer GVWR should be around 6800-7200#'s.

But you also have to look at the big picture which is the tow vehicles GCWR. This is the total tow vehicles cap of carrying both passengers, cargo, fuel; plus towing your trailer.

My truck GCWR is 14,100#'s. On the scale, my truck & trailer weighed 12,820 #'s. So I'm 9% under for total weight. But my trailer weighs 7300#'s and towing cap of my truck is 9,000#'s, which means I'm 19% under the towing cap.

So you need to look at a number of different weights before you can truly know if this vehicle will handle your needs.

So look at the big picture and get the correct vehicle the 1st time and you'll avoid buyers remorse.

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Old 02-11-2003, 02:51 PM   #3
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Kistler,
I did all of the analysis that John correctly mentions and then some. If you are speaking of a new Escalade, you should be fine. I tow a 25C Safari, fully loaded with my 2001 Yukon 5.3 with no problem.
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Old 02-11-2003, 02:58 PM   #4
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Escalades do cost a lot; about $11,000 more than we paid for our Jeep...and in my opinion look bargey/unwieldly BUT they do have tow capacity.

I think what worries me (other than the $) is will the short wheelbase be OK IF I get a Hensley. I want an SUV that fits in our garage. Isn't your Yukon over 19' long?
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Old 02-11-2003, 03:10 PM   #5
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GVWR 7300#'s

Kistler,

The Classic's GVWR is 7300#'s.

That is a 8.8% cushion and that doesn't factor in the Caddy's GCWR. So think twice before dropping the bucks.

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Old 02-11-2003, 03:13 PM   #6
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Jace,

The Safari's GVWR is 6300#'s.

That would leave a 21% cushion in the tow cap of the Caddy.

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John, How did you get that info? They state in their literature that the tow capacaity is 8,000 lbs.

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Old 02-11-2003, 03:19 PM   #8
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Kistler,

These are the weights of your trailer, not the Caddy and I got them right off of A/S web site.

Click on the underlined infor and it will bring you to the site.

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OK ic, I think I need to find a scale.
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John,
Agreed. My experience with the Escalade (almost bought one) is that they are strong enough.

Kistler,
The shorter wheelbase is not a problem for me and my lightweight A/S is a little more suceptible to wind induced wiggle, but I can drive with one hand and not worry. The axle weight ratings are fine based upon GM's Trailering brochure that can be had at any GM dealer.

Also, the Caddy has quite a bit more horsepower and torque than my Yukon, plus the fulltime 4x4.

I use a Reese WD hitch with sway control. Most important is that you take the time to set-up your hitch properly and not rely on the dealer, but double check everything. My dealer had mine all out of whack and it made a HUGE difference once set up properly.

I'd take the Escalade in a minute, they just weren't discounting them when I got my Yukon.
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Didn't read your whole post. The Escalade is a dressed up Yukon with a 6.0 engine and fulltime 4x4.

The Escalade and Yukon both come in the XL version which is the same as the Chevy Suburban. Basically a longer whellbase.

Both the Escalade and Yukon have an incredibly tight turning radius, better that many large passenger cars.

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They aren't having a sale here/now; I am just exploring . I am waiting on the war, poor sales, and 0% financing.

It sounds like I should look at Yukons. My wife likes "her" Jeep and it is THE tow vehicle. I am not going to trade in "my" car so we have a serveral problems here.
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Old 02-11-2003, 03:48 PM   #13
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Jace,

The Escalade has a towing cap of:

AWD 7,800#'s 2WD 7,300#'s

A little narrow for towing a GVWR of 7,300# trailer.

But like all things in life, do what makes you fell good !

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Kistler,

The Yukon is not the vehicle for you unless you get the big 3/4 ton XL, which it sounds like may be too big.

I agree with John that the comfort range is narrow, but here is my rationale for the Escalade being ok. Correct me if I am wrong.

1. You are a weekend camper and maybe a couple long trips a year.

2. You don't have the Classic loaded with a huge amount of clothes, toys, food or non-essentials, just enough for the shorter trips and not a ton in the storage bins.

3. You have the opportunity to travel without your trailer tanks full much of the time, maybe just partially loaded, but occasionally full.


4. You do not load much stuff in the rear of the tow vehicle that is heavyweight and, if you had the Escalde, might even go without the third row seat. Nothing heavy will go on top of the truck.

So, my rationale is that for 95% of the time, you will be well under the max GVWR and...I know for fact that the Escalade has a significant margin built in for the likelyhood of third-row passengers, adding more cushion.



Am I close?

John knows his stuff, so no arguement with his numbers, just a different perspective.

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