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Old 11-12-2014, 10:21 AM   #57
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I suspect they were minimizing the ditch digging when they installed it.


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Old 11-12-2014, 10:36 AM   #58
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Can water and sewer lines be in the same trench?

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Old 11-12-2014, 10:39 AM   #59
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Can water and sewer lines be in the same trench?
Not sure about the code, but the builder of my house put water, sewer, electricity, and telephone in the same trench going to my shop.

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Old 11-12-2014, 10:58 AM   #60
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Not sure about the code, but the builder of my house put water, sewer, electricity, and telephone in the same trench going to my shop.
Water and sewer CAN be in the same trench, but there is a required vertical separation, water line higher. 18 inches is typical, but building codes vary on that score.
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Old 11-12-2014, 11:34 AM   #61
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I've never seen one quite that close! Eeeewww!
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Old 11-12-2014, 01:10 PM   #62
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Originally Posted by Protagonist View Post
If I saw a connection similar to the one pictured by Moosetags, I wouldn't use that water in my Airstream. Most states that I'm aware of (which doesn't include all of them) require a horizontal spearation of 10 feet between water lines and sewer lines, OR, if they can't be separated that far, the invert (bottom elevation) of the water lines has to be at least 18 inches above the top elevation of the sewer line. Where you've got a sewer connection as close to a water line as in the picture, there is no vertical separation because they both come up to ground level, and the horizontal separation is measured in inches, not feet. Mere proximity to the sewer connection is enough to have that water source declared non-potable!

(The reason is that if both lines happen to leak, you can get cross-contamination.)
The separations between the utilities (water/sewer) is a guideline and can be met in many situations but often when working in urban areas there is only so much room to work underground. These utilities do come closer than the "guidelines" and typically a variance is granted for these situations. In my work I have looked down several manholes only to see an old watermain passing right through the sewer main....... BTW - have you ever seen the inside of an old water main? You may not drink the water.
At home we have cistern and I drink the water straight with maybe a little dose of chlorox when a good rain comes. When I drink the "city water" I can taste the chemicals and it's awful.
I agree that the utilities in Moosetags picture could have had more separation it wouldn't stop me from drinking the water. I usually let the water run for awhile to let the chlorine levels come up and move some sediment out of the line before I hook up the trailer.
On the trailer I do use the larger Camco filter #40631 and it does a good job but really cuts down on pressure.
Over the summer I had a hose burst from high pressure - it blew up like a big Anaconda snake! If you have to have a regulator I would buy a bigger one that is adjustable with a guage.
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Old 11-12-2014, 09:00 PM   #63
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In the campground I try to avoid the water and drink either a quality beer or something prepared in a blender with bagged ice.
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Old 11-12-2014, 09:30 PM   #64
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We use a combination of both. Some CG are okay and some are not to our liking but we use that water to clean and cook with anyway. Water for hiking and drinking is bottled and if the campground water doesn't suit our taste we use bottled water for our coffee maker. The dogs get inexpensive bottled water to keep their systems consistent, if you know what I mean.
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Old 11-12-2014, 10:42 PM   #65
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in a word ...NO. We bring our own drinking water or buy bottled ...CG water is for flushing / washing ... no Montezuma's Revenge for us!
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Old 11-12-2014, 11:25 PM   #66
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Total newbie question because I am a total newbie. I've read that I should use a white hose for fresh water but does that mean the park's water is drinkable? Even when I stay in hotels I drink bottled water. If you don't drink it, do you cook with it or is it just showers, washing dishes and flushing the john?

As I've stated before, I don't drink water without disinfecting it first with some good antibacterial agent such as Bourbon or Scotch. I do use a Brita water filter for making ice, cooking, or making coffee. If the water smells bad I go elsewhere. I do not put bad smelling water in my trailer for any purpose. Works for me.
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Old 11-13-2014, 03:58 AM   #67
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You do realize bottled water is usually just water from a municipal supply with the added bonus of soft-plastic taste ?
Very good someone is doing research!
Most people drink the campground water ,and most are on a well, the ground does the natural filtering,if in dought buy yourself a berkey water filter they are used by unicef disaster relief personnel they can even filter out pesticides ,arsenic,ecolie,etc..... And come in many different sizes front the typical portable sports bottle ( I have one but find its hard to get water out as you have to squeeze the bottle while sucking , low flow ) then they have the table top ones travel berkey all the way up to a massive size one , love the berkey we have but for a family of four should of got a bigger one as it takes a while to filter the water ( natural gravitation) remember the longer it takes to filter the water smaller the filter pores are and more is filtered out! One draw back I heard was the filter is fragile in a home just handle it carefully not sure how it would do on the road, as the filters last a longggg time I think it's like 3000 gallons each filter element ,mine are close to two years and are in great shape and should last around 10years at are water consumption. So I use the campground water for everything besides drinking and cooking . After all would you go back to a restaurant if you got sick there, (bad business) same goes for campgrounds if I get sick from the water at a campground I would never go back! And with the Internet the word would spread and that campground would go out of business eventually .
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Old 11-13-2014, 04:35 AM   #68
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We wash with it but we don't drink water from our camper lines at all, yet. Our camper sat for 4 years before we got it and we had no idea about the cleanliness of it's tank and lines. We bleached it all well and flushed the lines after letting the bleach sit in it for a good while. I just sent a water sample off for testing and if that comes back safe I imagine we'd drink campground water. As long as it doesn't smell or taste funny, wasn't in a swampy area and was a well maintained property. We'll stick to the .89 gallon jugs of water for now and considering the inline filter so many of you use, just to be on the safer side.
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Old 11-13-2014, 06:41 AM   #69
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I am a retired water treatment specialist. I would not trust most campground water. Especially the ones that close during part of the year.
As for hoses swelling or bursting from the heat of the sun. A pressure regulator will not help. Only a pressure release valve will cure that.
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Old 11-13-2014, 07:24 AM   #70
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I just have to say this.....

We have traveled and camped 20,000 miles in our first rig, and then 154,000+ miles in the Interstate, in 47 of the lower 48 states since 2002.

We have never once become sick, anywhere......not from the water, food we ate, nor anything appearing to be from water or food we had consumed.

I have never heard of anyone becoming ill from campground water anywhere, altho it certainly could have occurred.

I have a few thoughts on this issue of generally voiding campground water....

Use common sense, sanitize your tanks, filter your water for taste or if that is what you usually do at home for whatever reason. If the water is okay for the rest of the campground, it is okay for you......specific allergies, sensitivities, etc., notwithstanding

As you get out there and travel this beautiful country, letting go of irrational fears of the unknown (from living in a white bread world, as we in the business say) is part of the process of relaxing, getting into, and thoroughly enjoying, the travel life......i.e. fear that muggers/robbers lurk everywhere.....fear that everyone living differently or not in step with your life is dangerous, degenerate, mentally ill, to be avoided, etc......and fear that the public water in strange places in this country is unsafe.

I'm sure there are other irrational fears most of us have suffered from at some point, but this is what I am thinking of right now.

Most of us, but not all, have lived somewhat "white bread" lives.....a bit sheltered from the dredges of humanity, living lifestyles we had complete control over......and only drinking familiar water.

If we are going to really enjoy and embrace this beautiful country, and the wide variety of people in it, we need to open our minds and hearts, and let go of the fears we have cultivated......use good sense, smile and say hello, be kind and open-minded....and drink the water.

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