there is a very funny POLL on this topic.
for some reason the 'poll' part is closed
no doubt because some1 with their rivets a BIT TOO TIGHT was offended.
but the thread is still viable and the NOTION everlasting.
and reminds me of the seinfeld episode on it...
as in, "he took it out"
..."he took what out?"..."it"
...."he took, IT, out?"..."yessiree bob"
now, WHO B brave enough to bump that thread again (i did last year)