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Old 04-01-2014, 09:09 PM   #15
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Agreed! We are on number three and I won't say it is our last, although, it seems perfect!
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Old 04-01-2014, 09:41 PM   #16
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I just looked at the 2013 Airstream catalog while overseas and selected a 2013 25FB International Serenity from overseas. That was really a bad decision on my part.

If we had been inside one, we would have forgotten any model with the cross frame queen bed and would have probably selected the 27FB International Serenity. Of course there is an expensive issue with all the trim line models in the International family, there are no twin bed options in the price sheet. I was told that a $4,500 adder could create a twin bed International model.

After seeing a 34' Classic, we really liked the hickory wood cabinetry in that trim line. We ordered a Classic 27FB with twin beds. We sat around discussing what we did not like about the lounge/dinette and watching TV or having guests in the 25FB and then we realized that those issues were just dressed up in wood on the 27FB as the back 15' of either a 25FB or 27FB are nearly identical in terms of design and measurements. Thus we changed the order (upgrade charge was only the $3,012 difference in list price) to the Classic model 30. The only extra charge factory installed option we selected was the 50 amp power service with second air conditioner in the bedroom.

After the unit arrived and I finally took it off the dealer's lot, I switched to 16" SenDel wheels, 16" Michelin tires, a Dill 1506-453 TPMS system and Centramatic wheel balancers. The unit is now having a 800 watt solar system installed along with disc brake conversion and many custom interior tweaks.

When I found out my existing 2007 Mercedes ML320 CDI diesel lacked the weight capacity and axle ratings we needed for the 25FB when loaded for camping, I acquired a 2012 Dodge 2500HD crew cab with the Cummins diesel. It has the weight capacity and power to tow any Airstream 34' or shorter.

So, in one respect we "purchased" three units to get to the one we wanted but only took the financial "bath" on the first one.

The car analogy works well with the Airstream models. The differentiation for the 2014 Internationals was the move from the Flying Cloud formica counter tops to a corian like counter top surface in the kitchen. Otherwise, the cabinet and furniture wood cores are identical just with different formica laminated to it and linoleum colors/patterns are different.

The Classic line gets the solid wood cabinetry and higher weight capacity to carry all that wood. It gets larger propane tanks and larger furnace along with Corian counter tops everywhere. The plumbing moves from chrome to the bronze look with a few more gadgets in the plumbing department. The sofa and dinette are real furniture, not just slabs of plywood with a few inches of fabric covered foam to sit on.

While looking around at the models, take time to "perch" on the best seat in the house and see if there is adequate room for your legs and to do the paperwork. Sit in the dinette and look at the TV screen, is the viewing angle going to give you neck cramps? Climb on the mattress and sit up - do you hit your head? Do you have to crawl over the bed partner for the nightly bathroom visits?

Lots of things to consider in terms of the human interaction and how the floor plan fits your intended use. After the dust settles on the choice of trailer, then the next can of worms opens as to the choice of tow vehicle. There is/are days of reading on this forum alone just on the tow vehicle topic.

Before an order is signed, where are you going to park the new toy? Some folks pay $200 per month or more for a place to park the trailer if it can not be beside their home. Storage prices reflect whether there is a roof over the unit, some AC power to keep the batteries charged, a place to dump the tanks, a wash rack etc.

This can be a very sizable acquisition expense and on going annual expenses are there as well.

We wish you the best of luck reaching your camping decision.
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Old 04-01-2014, 11:29 PM   #17
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A lot of good info....

I was at the dealer just now for about an hour walking through a bunch of different sizes and models.

The flying cloud is def. the "cheaper" model. The cabinets have the dull look, the flying cloud also has laminate countertops (i believe, i know they're cheaper and cant have hot pots on them) instead of the formica. International has the different blinds and also comes "standard" with the $3500 Automatic awning.

Now I just need to figure out what size to get.... thanks for all the helpful info.
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Old 04-02-2014, 12:35 AM   #18
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One more thing to keep in mind while thinking about length: Check the Airstream site to confirm, but the last time I looked, the 27FB and the 28 model were both 28 feet long. I have no idea why they call it a 27FB when it should really be called a 28FB.
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28 is actually 27'11 and the 27 is 28'. Weird I know.

Im leaning towards the 28' now, I like the separate dining area, but really want it with nightstands. Havent found a 28' with those yet.
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:05 AM   #20
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Looks like a plan. Whichever you choose, give it a chance to settle in to you after several camping trips. Sometimes things you at first like turn out to be not so. The reverse is true also. But either way , I am sure you can live with your decision, because all AS are great. Go for it with no regrets. Jim
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:56 AM   #21
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Im new here (hence the 1st post) and looking to get a TT. I've been inside a bunch and other than some exterior things, I cant see any differences between the different models.

I understand the 2013's and 2014's are slightly different, but what about say a 28 Flying Cloud and a 28 International, or a 30'.
When you are new to any activity, many things look the same. To a new golfer or tennis player, all racquets or clubs look alike. Play golf for a year and you will develop a feel for a 9 degree loft, draw biased, 460cc headed driver vs 11degree neutral.

I love my international. Only after about 6 months did I realize I would now pick something slightly bigger, perhaps twin bed, and a bigger bathroom. Discriminating taste comes with experience.
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:30 AM   #22
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If you're certain you want a particular feature and are willing to wait, you can custom order your dream trailer. We didn't want to do that for our first-ever TT with no prior experience, but if you really know what you want and your dealer says it's possible, you can get it that way.
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Old 04-02-2014, 09:02 AM   #23
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28 is actually 27'11 and the 27 is 28'. Weird I know.

Im leaning towards the 28' now, I like the separate dining area, but really want it with nightstands. Havent found a 28' with those yet.

I believe the newer 28''s have night stands. They are built into the sides of the cabinets that flank the queen. I really like those cabinets, but my wife really likes the pano windows on the FB models.
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We moved from a 28 International to a 30' Flying Cloud for a number of reasons regarding space and comfort, as well outlined by others here. A key issue for us however was that the "L" shaped bench seating in the 28' was very uncomfortable. Any effort (and expensive) to improve the foam, add cushions never worked. I mention it because a number of the 27'/28' models have this seating configuration.
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Hang on, our 2014 International 27FB has night stands on either side of the queen bed...
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I thought the 28 sofa was as comfortable as the 30's. The only noticeable difference was the cabinet space and price.

I know the 27's have the nightstands, but I couldn't find a 28 with the nightstands.
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Maybe they aren't night stands technically, but there are two shelves on each side of the bed. Perhaps they are not on all trim levels?Click image for larger version

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Those are called wardrobe or something. I'm looking for these in a 28'. Click image for larger version

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