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Old 09-28-2005, 06:16 PM   #15
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okay, here's scheme 3. the toilet and shower are in separate compartments, but it allows a nice open airy space. can the ref. fit under the cab in the rear?
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Old 09-28-2005, 06:46 PM   #16
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here's a 66 caravel on ebay. looks in pretty good condition. probably go at a pretty good price.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT
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Old 09-28-2005, 07:14 PM   #17
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I have a 65 Caravel with the original floorplan of a couch along the side, and one along the front. I think it has a more open, roomy feel than the new 16 footer where the side bath protrudes into the center of the trailer. Everyone comments on how it feels bigger on the inside then it looks on the outside. The positives are that when there are two of you in the trailer each can lounge on a sofa with its own reading lamp. The negative would be that the eating on the side tables are not as comfortable as with a dinette. And I would imagine that a permanently made-up bed would be more comfortable then the fold-out gaucho. As for the large back window in the bathroom, I usually keep the folding bathroom door open to take advantage of that window for light and ventilation, which works fine as long as you don't mind looking at the shower pan. Your plan number 3 with a cabinet under the window is a good compromise and looks a bit like the layout of a 1964 Bambi II.
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Old 09-28-2005, 07:20 PM   #18
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okay, here's scheme 3. the toilet and shower are in separate compartments, but it allows a nice open airy space. can the ref. fit under the cab in the rear?
How about installing the fridge under the sink/stove area? It would open up the rear of the coach, and get a couple of hundred pounds of weight ahead of the axle, which is a good thing .
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Old 09-28-2005, 07:36 PM   #19
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With plan #3 you're pretty much back to a stock 65-68 Caravel layout in many ways. With the original back bath you have the showerpan in the center, so you have a place to stand when you're in the bathroom. This gives you more room at the toilet and the sink. Like Stan Z says, when not in use the bathroom slider is left open, and the trailer feels very roomy, you can enjoy a breeze by opening front and rear windows, and it's nice and light inside.

Another thing I like about the bathroom is it is roomy enough (and the closets are there) to change clothes in during the day. If I had to change in the trailer and there were people around (like at a rally), I would have to pull the curtains. But the bathroom is roomy enough to hop into, pull the slider and the back curtain, and change there.

Be sure to get your wife's input too! Some of us ladies are very opinionated about what we would like our bathrooms to be like

All 65-68 Caravels pretty much have the same layout. Some have a dinette in front (like mine), but the majority have the front couch (like Stan Z). Otherwise they are nearly identical.
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Old 09-28-2005, 07:54 PM   #20
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good points stef and overland.

what do you guys think of this plan?

i moved the ref next to the stove. i really don't care for seeing the shower pan, i'd like that space back there feel more like living space. so what i've done is put the sink in the middle, nice cabinetry, storage below with the toilet and shower on opposite sides with their own door. the sink can then serve as the kitchen sink and bathroom sink and be part of the living space, an extension of the kitchen. when you need the privacy, you can pull the curtain (i'd want to do some sort of pocket for the curtain to hide it when not in use).

i think my dimensions in the length may be a little short? i'm comparing it to a 65 floor plan. does anyone know (it would give me a little more room for counter)?

this feedback has been so helpful. it's allowed me to get very little done at work....
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If you want to keep the shower off to the side, and the toilet to the other side, you could put a small counter in between them, open underneath, for a makeup/dressing table. It could also double as a spot to use a laptop, out of everyone else's way. The new 22 CCD has a small computer desk in the rear, opposite the throne.
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Old 09-28-2005, 10:37 PM   #22
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It's getting better - figure out how wide the room for the toilet will be - then rig it up realtime (cardboard or plywood) around your toilet at home - ask your wife to try it out. Make sure it's wide enough....
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this feedback has been so helpful. it's allowed me to get very little done at work....
Well, that's what the forum's for

My only comment to the last design is that you lose your closets, so no space to hang stuff up. Though you could probably rig something in the shower and use that space when it's not being used as a shower, which is most of the time. And if you're really camping you don't need to hang stuff anyway. I find the Caravel has a lot of storage under the dinette and in the overhead bins. We don't even use it all!

Another thing, if you look at a picture of a caravel with a dinette, you will see it is installed at an angle. This means the side by the door is a little narrower, and the opposite side is longer. It lets you have a big table that can seat four while still leaving plenty of room for getting in and out. Very clever. I've seen ones built straight on and they are smaller than the factory dinette.
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The first floorplan will be the most useable, and the least aesthetic. I have a 34' Airstream now, but I've had a '61 Bambi with the two-couch layout. Last year I decided I wanted a small trailer for a specific purpose and am now on my fifth fiberglass trailer in the past year in my quest for the 'perfect' floorplan. My trailer #4, an '87 Burro widebody had exactly the floorplan you have in #1, except that it had a queen size bed and a little smaller dinette.

For me a full bath is a must; but not enough of a must to give up 1/3 of the trailer floorspace to it. A 48" bed really isn't wide enough for two to sleep comfortably, and you spend a LOT more time in bed than in the bathroom! A dinette in a small trailer is really an asset. The 16' Scamp trailer I have now has a 54" dinette in the rear that stays made up as a bed, and a street-side dinette for two. It has a curb-side galley, and a front bath/closet setup. It's really a very well-planned out setup that maximizes the use of the space without making it feel claustrophobic.

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