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Old 10-02-2011, 11:15 PM   #85
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I'm wondering if you guys that are so enamored with Earthbounds have actually been in one (or a dozen) In Real Life, or just fell for the website marketing? IRL, it's not uncommon for those shiny cabinets to be mounted crooked. They're like 3/8 plywood and mounted with tiny screws you'd find in a chinese watch. Take it down a bumpy road and they're all broke off on the floor. This Earthbound's MSRP was $80,000.
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Old 10-02-2011, 11:21 PM   #86
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Best to avoid the bumpy roads, then...
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Old 10-03-2011, 01:17 AM   #87
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Best to avoid the bumpy roads, then...
Hi, tell that to someone going to Alaska through the Yukon Territory!
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Old 10-03-2011, 06:26 AM   #88
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I'm wondering if you guys that are so enamored with Earthbounds have actually been in one...
I've only been in one and I was not impressed. Okay, it had some cool features. Yes, I still like the idea of a floor that is not made of plywood. However, as I said in post 44 there are plenty of things that I did not like about it. Is Airstream or any other brand better/worse? I guess that's in the eye of the beholder.

If I needed a trailer and an Earthbound was available at a resonable price I would give it consideration.

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Old 10-03-2011, 07:08 AM   #89
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I looked at the Earthbound before deciding on an Airstream. First, I don't believe what any manufacture says about build quality and durability, etc., etc. The proof is after these units are on the road in all kinds of conditions for many years. What happens to them, where do they fail, etc. What happens if EB goes bust? In the end, I chose Airstream for basically the simplest of reasoning. It is simply the coolest looking trailer on the market. The old ones look cool and the new ones look cool. The EB is one of the ugliest TTs on the market. I just couldnt see myself towing that gaudy looking thing, period. Just an opinion, but that is mine. I have had my AS now for about a year. In that short time I can say that everywhere I go, I get compliments on my cool trailer. I never had even one compliment on my SOB trailer that I towed for 5 years before. Airstreams are just plain cool.
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:43 PM   #90
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I looked at the Earthbound beside the Airstream at Sutton RV... they carry both... The EB was in bad shape... it was their demo and a lot of the interior bits an pieces were loose and broken. The materials looked very spiffy, and the seating surfaces were really nice... but in the demo all most all the seat cushions had pulled off... probably people wondering if there was a hid-a-bed or storage (there wasn't on that model).

But, Airstreams aren't perfect either. You'll find rivets off the mark, ones that pop for no reason... leaks just like any other trailer. Almost all the appliances, plumbing, wiring, etc are industry-wide parts... not AS specific. What you are hopefully getting in the AS is some precision hand-workmanship in the assembly of the exterior panels and structure.

I just got a new set of curtains for my 06 international... they didn't fit... discovered that the upper curtain rail was mounted upside-down, adding an extra inch to the height. It worked out that I was able to take it off and turn it around, but there are some scuffs from the old brackets. It's minor, but I've seen a lot of poor work in AS, and I've only had 2 of them.

In my Basecamp, the back doors were an inch out of alignment... took it to Sutton for repair, and they had to grind right into the exterior panels to make room for them to properly align. One of the front window sliders was mounted in the wrong spot, so when the window closed, the rod stuck straight out into the cabin space. (I fixed that myself). The rear latches for the drop down door were installed in the wrong location, so they only 1/2 caught and the back door dropped open if you hit a bump. Although they were supposed close like a house door, there was no way to adjust the striker to have it work that way - I had to use the handle to close it every time... If you understood the way the rear works on the Basecamp, you'd know that is a big problem.

I think a lot of these issues are universal to travel trailers and RV's. They are slapped together quickly, because it's just getting too expensive for labour to have people spend a lot of time hand-crafting perfection. Airstream is already pushing the limits of what people want to spend on a new RV... maybe they need to go even more upscale, charge a lot more, and make less trailers... that was never the intent of Wally... but I wonder how long AS can exist making 'average' trailers out of premium materials?
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Old 10-03-2011, 10:39 PM   #91
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I love the front window in that Earthbound Montreal. Not sure how water tight it is or what it would cost to replace and it doesn't have any kind of rock guard on it (where would you even get one if broke on the road?). The Keystone Premier to the left was 1/3rd the price and a lot nicer other than not having that front window. It has about the same aerodynamic profile. If you look off directly ahead there are about 20 beautiful Airstreams (all fresh stock. The 2012's have HDMI cables finally!). The EB was in the premium display location, but it has sit there while they've sold A LOT of Airstreams.
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Old 10-04-2011, 05:55 AM   #92
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Before buying our Classic 31, we looked at Earthbound- too modern looking for our taste- also looked at the Evergreen for the same reason that we looked at the Earthbound, hoping to find low maintenance and lack of future issues with water damage/mold due to the composite construction. We were impressed with the piece of counter top they had sitting in a glass of water that looked perfectly new with no water damage at all- and they have the more "home-y" look with wood cabinets, etc. We had pretty much narrowed it down to their 5th wheel when we went to the Tampa SuperRV show(none of their tags had the layout we were looking for). MDH said to not even bother going inside until you look underneath as they will show you all the bells and whistles inside but the quality is in what you DON'T see - what a shock for many that are out there- some SOBs look like they lined it with cardboard (evergreen looked better than some in this respect). You all know what the underbelly of an airstream looks like- we came to our senses and bought our Airstream here on the forum classifieds. We decided that we really didn't want to pull the empire state building down the road every time we set out and the Airstream quality sold us. It is really tough to find a smaller quality unit out there- it seems that the manufacturers think that they should reserve that for 40'plus. We are pleased with our final choice. For those looking for an alternative, the Evergreen is worth a look.
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Old 10-04-2011, 08:12 AM   #93
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I've got to say, the more I read this thread and the Vantage thread, the more I REALLY REALLY wish that Bigfoot (now back in business) had nationwide dealer coverage. Few other brands garner near-uniform praise for construction and longevity, but it's a long way to British Columbia from Connecticut.

We're in the market for a bigger and newer trailer than the Argosy. I love the AS community, how well the trailers tow, and the styling - but I'm wondering how I'd feel if I spent $30k or more and wound up with a rotting floor or filaform...

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Old 10-04-2011, 11:23 AM   #94
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I live in the province where Bigfoot is manufactured, and never thought twice about them. Have never seen a Bigfoot trailer; only the truck campers.

My dealer is also pedalling the "Evergreen Element" trailer. Looks the same as Earthbound. The window looks the same as
the one in newroswell's post. http://blog.goevergreenrv.com/

If this composite material lives up to everyone's expectations - well, good. But I still think they are ugly suckers. Being a very visual person, the classic Airstream look was important to me.
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Old 10-04-2011, 02:59 PM   #95
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I've got to say, the more I read this thread and the Vantage thread, the more I REALLY REALLY wish that Bigfoot (now back in business) had nationwide dealer coverage. Few other brands garner near-uniform praise for construction and longevity, but it's a long way to British Columbia from Connecticut.

We're in the market for a bigger and newer trailer than the Argosy. I love the AS community, how well the trailers tow, and the styling - but I'm wondering how I'd feel if I spent $30k or more and wound up with a rotting floor or filaform...

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ARCTIC FOX (NASH) is the one I "think" being referred to in re TT's.
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ARCTIC FOX (NASH) is the one I "think" being referred to in re TT's.
Yep, they're the other well-regarded brand. But their typical-RV styling doesn't work for me. At least Bigfoots look somewhat "different."

Too bad the nearest US dealer is Illinois and the trailers appear to be built-to-order only. Not that I should single out Bigfoot - I'm actually pretty surprised at how regional RV distribution can be. Tried to find an Evergreen Element dealer - that's 6 hours away. There's no Chalet trailer dealer nearby either...

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They're both SWB's in appearance, one marginally "nicer" than the other.







I expect to travel the "average" 1,200-miles for my next trailer. I'd imagine that warranty issues on a brand-new one are spelled out for problems of distance. In other words, if I really wanted one . . . .
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Old 10-25-2011, 08:18 PM   #98
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$84,900 starting price for 2012 models?

Marion's Earthbound Recreational Vehicles retools strategy - Indiana Economic Digest - Indiana
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