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Old 03-08-2006, 11:55 AM   #15
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Hi the community;

I've checked the new members list and there is so many people inscribed with 0 (zero ) post ....
I wondered what was the interest to get an inscription in a forum without discussing... at least one time...
may be to own in a community ...why not but it's a mystery .


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Old 03-08-2006, 01:00 PM   #16
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It's quite ok to have lurkers on the forums. Could you imagine being at a rally and every person there was talking at the same time (well, bad example, that might actaully happen and would be fun). I feel lurkers are quite ok and am glad they joined.

You will even notice that we have over 200 courtesy parking members and many of them have never made a post. So they might not have joined to participate in the discussions (yet) but they might still be participating in other ways (links, photos, campground reviews, classifieds, etc).

Bruno, I just realized that all 3 member from France have posted. Nice showing!
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Old 03-08-2006, 01:21 PM   #17
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how about a new name for folks who join but don't post!

hi bruno, andyr and tom

i realize it is a web convention to call these folks the "L" word....but it's a creepy name. i remember the first time someone called me that on a list serv.....i was offended. and even after finding the new usage/definition.....it still seemed cheesey....

where does it say air forums must use all those nerd terms anyway?

ISN'T airforums is a high class operation.......

so how about a nice name......

like "readers"..........i mean that's what they are doing isn't it?

people who join but don't post have more benefits (like search function) than guests.....so that's a reason to join, even if only planning to read.

and guest is such a lovely name.....so how about guest and readers?

all we have here is our keyed words, pix and these.......

and hey andy why can't we see which threads guests are viewing any more?

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Old 03-09-2006, 05:19 AM   #18
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Hi again;

Not to be against Airstream owners that don't post if they contribute to bring something else in the community .I think it's as you're in a club, you have to participate to the life of this club. At least,they can give us some data about their airstream model and where they are from, with the member map, by example.
it 'll be a bit curious to know how many have put their flag on the map...

Andy, is it possible to get an access to see informations about member's map .

tchao.

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Old 03-09-2006, 05:33 AM   #19
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I will have to check with myself and get back to you on that...

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What about those with multiple personalities? They want a membership for each one, but not every one of them may wish to make posts! Do you hear the voices in your head? LoL ... Ed
I (We) (Us) have to sit down (well some of us could stand I suppose) and have a serious discussion (although some of us probably would not participate) about this issue
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hi bruno, andyr and tom

i realize it is a web convention to call these folks the "L" word....but it's a creepy name. i remember the first time someone called me that on a list serv.....i was offended. and even after finding the new usage/definition.....it still seemed cheesey....so how about a nice name......like "readers"..........i mean that's what they are doing isn't it?

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Right on, 2air. How about "spectators". Like "readers", much less negative than "lurkers". I belong to other more populated forums where it takes a full evening just to weed through posts from the last 24 hours (I know, I should've finished 8th grade )
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Old 03-10-2006, 07:48 PM   #21
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"Lurkers" is not a geek term....it is a term that is used to describe anyone who doesn't post on a discussion board/forum. Words are created to describe things and sometimes those meanings change; what once seemed derogatory, is now a common term. In New Zealand tramping means hiking, no one there is worried that they will get their face slapped if someone says "hey have you been out tramping?"

In fact, if you read professional journals that discuss internet etiquette, they suggest to people to lurk first anytime they join a discussion board or forum. Lurk, get to know the culture of the group, see if these are discussions you want to have, and when an issue arises...post.

I guess I don't understand why lurking would be a bad word.
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"Lurkers" is not a geek term....it is a term that is used to describe anyone who doesn't post on a discussion board/forum. Words are created to describe things and sometimes those meanings change; what once seemed derogatory, is now a common term. In New Zealand tramping means hiking, no one there is worried that they will get their face slapped if someone says "hey have you been out tramping?"

In fact, if you read professional journals that discuss internet etiquette, they suggest to people to lurk first anytime they join a discussion board or forum. Lurk, get to know the culture of the group, see if these are discussions you want to have, and when an issue arises...post.
hi ya uberlanders

thanks for making my point about the geek origin of this newer usage and definition...since discussion boards and internet etiquette only date to the 80s when the morph began..describing 'anyone who doesn't post'...sure seeks like geek'holen a large segment.

i'm gonna jump way out and suggest a professional journal discussing internet etiequette, might just be written by and for geekfessionals.....

and by the way, when a L........ posts for the first time or on rare occasion, what is it called?...

why delurking, of course...and that seems to be geek speak as well.

it might pay to look beyond the wikipedia for info....and the longer view on words...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lurker


yes definitions evolve.....
and you given us a prime example...
since tramping is from middle english or low german.....
and means to walk about heavily, trudge...and so on....
it has been in use for a few centuries as a term for walking/hiking/and moving around in the muck...
or to walk aimlessly....

only recently (20th century) and locally was misused to describe a class of folks down on their luck...
or selling the bods for a buck....
and sadly this bastardization of the term has stuck...

on this topic i could write more......
but i don't want to be called a post whore.....
another geek term, that i abhor.....

i'd rather walk aimlessly with a tramp....

besides the kids now all say
online forums are passe'
kids get quickly to the point now,
with the phrase......
"on line posting is so gay"

all we got here is our words and those little colored faces ....ooops, i mean smilies...

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and rfield54.....i do like the term spectators.....i'm gonna try and use it some....
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As an educator, I steer my students clear of Wikipedia. Not always the most accurate source of reputable information.

Sorry I was speaking from my classes, I'm almost done with my masters in information technology for the classroom.

And as far as the word gay? My students aren't allowed to use the word, unless refering to someone wearing a hat with happy flowers.

At this moment they may respond to your baiting comments as.....Whatever!
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Old 03-11-2006, 03:09 AM   #24
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hi there;
i didn't know this word "lucker" but I'm surprised that a sort of web encyclopedia can give so much definitions about this "new" word... very instructive when you don't have a master degree in english ;

So the name we can give to people that don't post is not very important. My opinion is we can't consider them all as really members of a community, only because they are inscribed ... can we really say now that we r'e more than 11000 members in this Airstream forum ? May be 11000 airstream owners ( that is the good point of that, we know there are at least 11000 ) but not 11000 active members, ready to reply to your request, or to support you, or to give an opinion or an advice etc....

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Thumbs up I was just spectating, and...

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only recently (20th century) and locally was misused to describe a class of folks down on their luck...
or selling the bods for a buck....
and sadly this bastardization of the term has stuck...

on this topic i could write more......
but i don't want to be called a post whore.....
another geek term, that i abhor.....

i'd rather walk aimlessly with a tramp....

besides the kids now all say
online forums are passe'
kids get quickly to the point now,
with the phrase......
"on line posting is so gay"


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