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Old 12-17-2015, 12:37 PM   #1
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AS or Motorhome?

We are not AS owners yet, but we are wondering if anyone owned a motor home or bus conversion and changed to an AS? What are the real benefits of an AS over a motor home? We plan to do some major full timing and are trying to make a smart purchase. On another post I noticed someone said it was a mistake to buy a motor home. I'd love to learn more on why it was a mistake or maybe the pros and cons. Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

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Old 12-17-2015, 12:50 PM   #2
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I'm sure you are referring to an AS trailer, not an AS motorhome. I've had both, go with the trailer. Others will chime in with reasons.

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Old 12-17-2015, 12:59 PM   #3
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Yes, I'm referring to an AS trailer. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Old 12-17-2015, 02:41 PM   #4
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We have both.

Each have pros and cons.

If I had to choose one, I would choose the trailer. I find that with either, one is towing something.

In the case of a MH, one needs a car. It must be a car compatible with being towed, even if one chooses a car dolly, which is even more to tow and deal with.

But, traveling is fun in the MH. Everyone but the driver can move around some, get a drink, make a sandwich, etc....


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Old 12-17-2015, 02:42 PM   #5
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Maybe the grass is greener on the other side, only those with or had both can give you their take.
From a MH user for the last 40 yrs, but not as a full time living, mh satisfied the need to have convenient facilities while travelling. When in a permanent place a trailer probably makes more sense, only two mh the vw and the coachhouse van could be used as a daily driver but living space was sacraficed to convenience to park anywhere. Start a pro and con list to make your decision.
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Old 12-17-2015, 02:56 PM   #6
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Typical motorhomes are larger inside due to slides. You can carry more stuff.

Gas Class A's are more thirsty (7mpg). Diesels are more fuel efficient and powerful but are much more expensive. Then you have to bother with the engine/drive train maintenance plus the normal RV maintenance. A tow vehicle can be serviced/repaired anywhere vs a motorhome. A trailer is less complex to maintain.

A motorhome construction is like most SOB and delamination can be an issue if a leak develops. The Airstream theoretically will last longer since there is no wood used in the outer shell but its shell is more susceptible to hail damage than a motorhome.

As mentioned above you'll end up towing a car with a motorhome. The upside is a small car is more fuel efficient for day trips away from the campsite.

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Old 12-17-2015, 03:01 PM   #7
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We turned our AS into a guest house and travel twice as much in a Mercedes-Benz based MH. We've had two class A motorhomes and find that the LTV Unity TB is easy to park and a very comfortable ride. After two years and 11,000 miles with zero defects, the need for a toad has proven to be unnecessary. The AS now has a permanent parking place on the banks of the Animas River.
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Old 12-17-2015, 03:43 PM   #8
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Mike, by major full timing I presume that what ever you buy will be your full time residence. I've owned three motor homes since 1975 & now an Airstream we use part time. We full timed in our MH for half a year while building our current home almost six years ago.
Aside from the tremendous expense of maintaining a 4 slide 40ft diesel motor home it was a total joy. Fuel back then was double compared to today's cost, a 20 qt oil change cost $200+, just about every service appointment cost a thousand dollars or more getting incidentals & systems repaired. If you have unlimited funds I strongly suggest you go the motor home route as the comfort level is unsurpassed. If not & if it were me I'd buy a Classic AS & a heavy duty diesel truck & be happy ever after. Just my 2cents.
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Old 12-17-2015, 03:54 PM   #9
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Not sure it qualifies as a MH ( ) but we just sold our Class B Roadtrek Sprinter that we did 2 years extended travel in.

What were we thinking? It sounded good, easy to drive, all in one, fits in any space, everything you need in one 22' package.

Did I say 22'?

At the end of this summer, we were done. Connecting/Unconnecting everytime we wanted to go somewhere, noisy inneffective AC, living in essentially 8' of space; we'd had enough.

We will be starting out in our 27' AS this spring. We spent 3 days shakedown in Cedar Key FL and loved it.

My brother has a Unity TB and THAT is a great unit. Big enough to be liveable, but small enough to get in most spaces.

We don't have any experiences with a larget MH, but I understand the toad comments, for sure.

One suggestion I have, is buy used, at first. It can be expensive for depreciation if you don't like your rig.

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Old 12-17-2015, 04:40 PM   #10
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We own a 40' diesel pusher with no slides and are considering switching to a 34' Airstream TT. The choice of which type of RV is up to you, but most people look at several factors. In no particular order, they are:

1. How often will you move? Generally, a towable is considered the better choice if you are going to stay put for more than a month at a time on a regular basis. A MH is usually considered the better choice if you move at least monthly on a normal basis.
2. A towable requires some sort of truck as a tow vehicle, while a MH can tow a vehicle. If you are going to have only the RV and the other vehicle, a MH towing a small, fuel-efficient car will usually use the least fuel overall.
3. When it is raining, snowing, or just plain nasty outside, the MH lets you pull into the campsite and level from inside. You only have to go outside to attach the electric cord.
4. You don't have to go outside to use the restroom or get a snack/lunch when you are in a MH.
5. A DP will usually have a fairly large CCC, while an Airstream has a much smaller CCC.

So, why are we considering switching from our Foretravel to an Airstream? Simply put, our original plan was to stay anywhere from a few days to a month at any one place. Since we've gotten involved with Laborers For Christ we are finding that we are staying for 2-8 months at a time in one spot. Regardless of our decision, we're still working on getting rid of some of the stuff we're carrying around that we probably don't need.
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Old 12-17-2015, 04:47 PM   #11
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I've always been a big diesel pusher fanatic (have mine finally and I do love it and have even been mulling over going bigger...if only AS would get back into the AS business) but I've recently been turned on by ONE B+ manufacturer...LTV Inc...I really do like the new Interstate GT, definitely more livable looking than the Lounge, which to me cannot be more than a weekender...well, maybe for a solo traveler who knows how to pack better than I...but that new Unity Flex.....boy, gotta say, I never in a million years thought I'd EVER seriously be considering a B Van, till I saw that. But deep down I still really love AS and it's that love that's kept me in my rig longer than I normally keep one.
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Old 12-17-2015, 05:09 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by KJRitchie View Post
Typical motorhomes are larger inside due to slides. You can carry more stuff.
That is actually a fallacy. Slides only give you more floor space, not more storage space.
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Old 12-17-2015, 06:01 PM   #13
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"Typical motorhomes are larger inside due to slides. You can carry more stuff." Actually, if one compares a coach with slides and the same one without slides, the non-slide coach will have a greater CCC and (usually) more storage space. The reason is the slide mechanism takes up space and weight.
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Old 12-17-2015, 06:18 PM   #14
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I find it interesting that most of the posts above indicate that if you move around a lot the MH is the way to go and if you stay put the TT is the way to go. We've spent about 12 months in our 27 foot AS TT over the past two years (moving fairly frequently) and I believe that the TT is much easier to move around in than the MH, you also generally have more choices of places to camp provided the TT is smaller than the MH. If we were to spend an entire winter (say three or four months) in one place we would probably get a 35 to 37 foot MH which would provide more interior space during inclement weather which seems to occur in the winter almost regardless of where you happen to be. The 27 foot TT can feel a bit confining after a few cold or rainy days.

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