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Old 03-27-2007, 11:52 AM   #15
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Maybe 15 years back, in the hills above my hometown of Salida, CO, a local fellow was attacked in his camper trailer by a black bear. By all accounts, the guy was about a quarter bubble off-plumb, and didn't listen when he was advised to clean up his yard to avoid attracting bruins. He regularly hiked down to town and told stories of a big bear that came by almost every night. A friend of mine loaned him a 30-06 for protection.

When we missed him at the bar, a couple of guys got in a Jeep and went up to check on him. They found the door of the trailer torn off, 4 bullet holes in it, and about half of the poor bloke in the bushes. When the bear was found and killed, it had a wound on its scalp where a slug had glanced off.

I've never worried much about black bears (Griz is a whole 'nuther matter), even though I usually camp in the open with just the walls of my sleeping bag between me & them. Had a small number of encounters, lost one whole backpack, prudently moved camp a few times, and my dawg was beat-up pretty good once. Most often, I've been able to shoo the buggers with a clap and a yell.

Bears are a lot like Human Beans -- individuals not wholly controlled by instinct, and thus unpredictable. Still, it's fair warning when you encounter one that's unintimidatable and persists in hanging near. Time then to just pull up stakes.
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Old 03-27-2007, 11:59 AM   #16
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Way back when in '76... we wuz way up 'bove Yosemite a huntin' b'ar and deer... and these three city boys wuz a-stayin in a pick-up camper in the primitive campground above Monitor Pass off of Highway 50. This here b'ar decided that the bacon sittin' on the ice in the icebox smelled pretty good... so in the middle of the night the bear opened the camper like tin can and had his way with the bacon, much to the chagrin of the three city boys a-sleepin' inside! They all made it out of the camper without injury, but none brought their rifles out. The bear sauntered away, his hunger gone. The "hunters" took their broken camper and headed back for L.A.

When we were in Alaska we were warned just to stay away from the moose. They're apparently not too bright, easily riled, and are big enough that they don't listen to reason.

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Old 03-27-2007, 12:05 PM   #17
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Works beautifully on them, no matter how big.
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Old 03-27-2007, 12:07 PM   #18
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It's all a matter of perspective

Part of the reason we go camping is for the adventure. Otherwise, you might as well stay home in your nice safe house and hope a meteor doesn't hit it...but even that happened to someone on the Forums. Personally, I'm more afraid of the idiots on the road doing damage to my Airstream on the way to camping, than a bear while I'm camping. And, as others have pointed out bears are usually scared off by loud noises. As far as critter damage I'm more afraid of mice than bears. Mice that can also result in a destroyed trailer if they chew wiring that causes a short and a fire. So, it's all a matter of perspective.
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Old 03-27-2007, 12:37 PM   #19
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Agreed. My .50ae should stop a dinosaur, let alone a bear or moose.
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I will not be a traveler for any trip planned for Alaska. Bears or no bears.
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Old 03-27-2007, 02:19 PM   #21
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I spent 3 months in working in Alaska.

The locals all carried magnum handguns in case they could not get away. I still have clear memory of 20 of us gear and guns flapping as we fled from our Samon fishing when a bear showed up for dinner. Someone yelled BEAR!! and I'm telling you it was a sprint. Guys just dropped their polls and went. No one was gonna be the guy at the back.


Oddly most people killed by moose are killed when they hit one with a car. Moose legs are very long and the bumper breaks them and then the 1000 lb and up moose body lands on the car roof squishing all within. The State Troopers then buthcher the moose and deliver the meat to homes and institutions nearby.
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I will not be a traveler for any trip planned for Alaska. Bears or no bears.
Bears are all over the northern half of the country too (lower 48). Not sure about the south, but I know many sections of the north do.
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The best protection for a group is a 22 Cal handgun. If the bear starts to chase you, shoot the person next to you in the leg and run! Works everytime.....
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I think black bears are more elusive and afraid of people, loud noises, etc. Unless they have cubs in tow. Grizzly's are a whole other ball of yarn.
big brown bears can also do this amount of damage along with the Kodiak bears. on americias funniest video there are videos where a brown bear takes salmon from fishermen they stand over 7 ft tall.
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The best protection for a group is a 22 Cal handgun. If the bear starts to chase you, shoot the person next to you in the leg and run! Works everytime.....
That was pretty funny Richard.....kind of like forcing someone to take one for the team so to speak!
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Just remember dumb humans have destroyed way more trailers, and bears than the other way around.
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The best protection for a group is a 22 Cal handgun. If the bear starts to chase you, shoot the person next to you in the leg and run! Works everytime.....
Richard, will you promise to come along with us?
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How very, very true!
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