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Old 12-16-2006, 02:13 PM   #15
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We thought we could do fine in a 22 CCD, but found that we were in the dinette working all day, then watching TV or games all evening - not fun. Then the 28 - great floor plan, but the CCD is not the most comfortable for long term, but looks good. So, we looked at the 30, 31 and 34 and decided that the 34 would suit us on the road the best. There is a BIG difference in comfort level between the CCD and the Classic!

Thanks everyone for all of the input!
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Old 12-17-2006, 08:05 AM   #16
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If your going fulltime then the 34' Classic is just the ticket. I came very close ( the deposit check was written) to buying the 34' Classic last year, but decided until we go fulltime the 25' was going to be just fine. The only trade I can invision in the future is to the 34'. A couple of suggestions; add the Vista Views asnd stacked windows to the bedroom, and the light over the door also I likethe stacked widows to the right of the door. There isn't a choise between a standard Classic and a Lmited anymore, they're all Classic Limiteds.
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Old 12-17-2006, 08:17 AM   #17
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One more thing: no more Burgandy, Oh and the standard is a fixed window to the left of the door, when I got ready to order I asked for a stacked window instead. The reason they don't put one there is the door opens against this window so you would have to be real carefull not to leave it open when the door was open.
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Old 12-17-2006, 09:38 AM   #18
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Go ahead, get the 34. that extra space goes along way when you spend allot of time on the road.The only reason we have a 34 is that A.S. does not make anything longer
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Old 12-17-2006, 12:07 PM   #19
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Pete,

We recently purchased a 2007 34' SO Classic and really enjoy it. My comments based on our experience and perspective are as follows:

1) A minimum TV of a 3/4 or 1 ton is required. I prefer diesel but a larger gasser will work just as well.

2) Everyone has their favorite hitch style. We had a Reese Dual-cam on our 30' Safari and stayed with it on the 34. It works well. In fact, I spoke with a retired Dodge engineer whose primary responsibility was DOT certification of Dodge Trucks and he stated that the Reese would do 95% of what a Hensley or Pull-rite would do at 1/3 the cost. BTW, this engineer was an Airstreamer for 26 years before moving to a large 5ver We're sticking with our Reese at this time but if I upgrade, I MUCH prefer the Pull-rite to the Hensley. No flames here - it is personal preference.

3) The 34 is much more comfortable in living space to 30. Compared to our 30, the bathroom is larger but we have the Carlson Bathroom modification. Yes, most of the space is between teh slideout and couch in the front. We have a daughter in a wheelchair and we purchased a set of aluminum ramps to give access to the trailer. We can easily accomodate her wheelchair in the trailer and still feel like we can move around.

4) Lots of good advice from the forum before we bought ours. Best piece of advice was to order it with two ACs. In hot weather, one AC will struggle to keep the unit cool. The other was that you have to be more careful regarding fuel stops and tail dragging due to the longer length. Also, get the Prodigy or equivalent brake controller as it really makes the difference and is worth the cost.

5) I also prefer the generator to solar but then again, I live in Michigan where cloudiness is the rule not the exception. I have a Honda EU3000 which will allow me to run one AC. You can also get remote start mods to these by at least one dealer. Frankly, we don't boondock much anymore so this is not an issue for us.

Remember, everyone gets want they want and need. It is always interesting to me what features will drive the purchasing decisions. What you want may not be what others want but it is YOUR Airstream.

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Old 12-17-2006, 01:36 PM   #20
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Thanks for the advice, Jeff and Vickie. We are getting lots of good input on the trailer purchase. I am still not sure about the solar package, but most everyone I have talked too says we will be glad we have it. Have looked into the Prodigy brake controller (on sale at Camping World right now) and are pretty sold on the Hensley hitch - going by what I have read so far. I am thinking the deposit check will be written tomorrow.
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Old 12-17-2006, 01:55 PM   #21
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I am thinking the deposit check will be written tomorrow.
hi pete

your a/s dealer must start drooling....

when you pull in the lot...

i have both the solar package and generator...

from a cost analysis it's hard to justify the solar package,

but i like it, use it and am glad i opted for it...

the 'gen prep' is a good option too because it provide a power port up front...

handy for the generator or shore power connections...

it is a long long trailer...

2 air conditioners may or may not be useful...

i do fine with one...

but an option i wish i'd ordered and didn't...

is the 50AMP wiring upgrade...

this is inexpensive up front, but nearly impossible 2 add later...

if the trailer has 50amp...

adding a second a/s in the future is easy.

finally, for questions about the (hensley) haha...

here is a useful thread. tips, tricks and info from users galore!

http://www.airforums.com/forum...de-26279.html?

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Old 12-17-2006, 01:56 PM   #22
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Very sound advice. I'm almost convinced I need a 34'!
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Old 12-17-2006, 02:32 PM   #23
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Thanks again 2 - I will include the gen prep on the trailer. I have a Honda 3000EU generator at home that I will begin carrying with me to use when having lunch or boondocking (not often). I have been told that one 15000 AC should be fine in the 34, although I have been miserable in the 28 with the same AC. The classic has more insulation, so I hope it will be fine. The metal interior in the CCD is nice but hot and cold.

Thanks again everyone for the good advice and comments. Promise to post lots of pics when the new trailer arrives. We are on the road now, so the trailer will be delivered to us in south Texas.
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Old 12-17-2006, 02:37 PM   #24
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The classic has more insulation,
I don't believe this to be true. Only the slides I think get some foil type insulation in certain areas, but I'm not sure on that. When I was at the factory, all shells are made the same. From there it's just simple model specifics like windows and trim. I saw no Airstreams on either of my 2 trips to Jackson Center get any different insulation. On the line, I saw Classics getting the same insulation as the Safaris, CCDs and Bambis.

I would totally agree that 2 A/C units, particularly if full timing would be a good call. Keep in mind that a 34' unit has more real estate to bask in the sun. Additionally, I've spoken to several folks that have skylights....those do also not help in heating and cooling.
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I think the difference comes from the CCD having no carpet covering on the interior and the Classic does - makes a big difference. From my experience, skylights don't help except on a cold and clear day for heat.
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I think the difference comes from the CCD having no carpet covering on the interior and the Classic does - makes a big difference. From my experience, skylights don't help except on a cold and clear day for heat.
Maybe. My Safari has the carpet like interior wall covering and I know that I can feel the heat on the wall that comes through both the outer skin, insulation, inner skin and the carpetlike stuff on the wall. I'm not sure that stuff provides much R value to the coach. I have a 15k BTU unit in our 25' and no matter if in full sun or not, the 15k does do a great job cooling a 25' coach....but that's a 25' coach...and a far cry from a 34'. A 34' has about 76 more cubic feet than my 25'.

Thing is that if you went to a dual A/C unit, I think the Airstream would have to become a 50a unit. Not sure 30a would cover one A/C and other things running inside the coach if another A/C were added later.
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From what I know, two A/C's means that the trailer becomes a 50 a unit. It would be nice if someone could come up with a controller that would allow two A/C's o 30 amps - only allow one unti to run at a time. Maybe I should be an engineer??!
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It would be neat, but then again with a 34', it very well may need 2 units. I know that there are folks that park their 30' Airstreams in sun and though the single 15k unit does work, I've heard that even it can struggle. If that happens on a 30', my thought is that a 34' **might** increase the possibility of not being able to keep up in the warmest of circumstances....though far better than the 13.5k units.

The proof is in your statement of the 28' having an issue even with the 15k unit, again, not thinking that the carpet type wall covering is going to add a lot of R value to help maintain overall inside temps.

If this were a coach you would say I'd be using 4-6 weeks a year, I'd say maybe not, but if you fulltime, this is in fact your primary residence. Might be worth at least thinking about putting 2 units in as most RV parks now have 30 and 50a at the sites.....just a thought.

I recall how folks here said not to go with such a big A/C unit with my Safari and even Airstream asked me why....when I asked how come the 25' Classic had it as an option, and I had it installed, it was one of the best decisions I made....if I had to do it retro, it would have cost me about $1600 installed. I know, cause I just asked Airstream about doing it to a possible 31' Dinette...and that is simply replacing one, not adding one new.....
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