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Old 03-06-2016, 12:04 AM   #15
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I aso got in the habit of locking the stinger in the receiver with my boat trailer so carry it over to the WD hitch stinger for the AS. A lot of theft crime is that of opportunity.
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Old 03-06-2016, 08:48 AM   #16
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As I wait for my 2016 Classic to be built, I've been searching for the usual accessories to go with the trailer. With the ton of experience here I'd like to know if anyone would swap out any of these components for something else. Long term reliability is my #1 consideration.

1. Sewer hose:
http://www.amazon.com/Camco-39867-Rh...sewer+hose+kit

2. Hose Support:
http://www.amazon.com/Camco-43051-Si...WD3TTBVHPC99J3

3. Initial water filter (I use Zero Water for drinking):
http://www.amazon.com/Camco-40043-Ta...ESVHSPBB0T5R2V

4. A-Arm level (not sure this is large enough to view via the trucks back-up camera to use with the Anderson levelers):
http://www.amazon.com/Camco-25543-T-...KQDJJZ220XJ9MM

5. Donut:
http://www.amazon.com/Camco-39313-Se...WD3TTBVHPC99J3

6. Tank Treatment:
http://www.amazon.com/Happy-Campers-...WD3TTBVHPC99J3

7. Step pads for dog (would this work on AS Classic steps and if so [will the steps close?], and which width):
http://www.amazon.com/Camco-42925-Wr...WD3TTBVHPC99J3

8. Electrical protection (or was thinking maybe something mounted permanently inside the trailer in-between the electrical receptacle of the trailer and power distribution box as that would be one less thing to worry about and get stolen):
http://www.amazon.com/Progressive-In...WD3TTBVHPC99J3

9. Heated water hose (50 foot with self regulating thermostat):
http://www.amazon.com/Camco-22902-Ta...WD3TTBVHPC99J3

10. Anderson complete level kit:
http://www.amazon.com/Andersen-3600-...7C8HCZ0DZZZBS2

11. Water bandit:
http://www.amazon.com/Camco-22484-Wa...WD3TTBVHPC99J3

12. 15amp to 50amp adapter:
http://www.amazon.com/Camco-55168-Po...WD3TTBVHPC99J3

13. Winterizer:
http://www.amazon.com/Winterize-Moto...A3KARNS5YJNX2D

14. 30 to 50 AMP:
http://www.amazon.com/Camco-55185-Po...09DBRRHD02RDQF

15. 90 deg hose fitting:
http://www.amazon.com/Valterra-A01-0...JEZFSQMTC38ZB9

16. Copper mesh rodent protection for all the cracks:
http://www.amazon.com/Stuf-Fit-Coppe...ds=copper+mesh

17. Water tank rinse wand for airstream?
http://www.amazon.com/Camco-11691-Wa...WD3TTBVHPC99J3

18. Tank/hose flush:
http://www.amazon.com/Camco-39062-Fl...WD3TTBVHPC99J3

19. Backup water pressure gauge with meter:
http://www.amazon.com/Camco-40064-Br...WD3TTBVHPC99J3

20. Insulation to put on interior skin behind every cabinet:
http://www.amazon.com/Reflectix-BP24...3N121AC004H1D1


Is it worth buying caps for your sewer hose? One would think you would want it to air dry open. Also, is the built in sewage storage in an Airstream basically worthless with all of the elbows and connections found on a sewer hose? Anything else to add to the list?
Without going through the whole listing yet, your last question about sewage storage hit a nerve with me.
My 2015 25' FC had a very small stowage tube for a sewer pipe, and I asked CanAm to install a second longer tube to stow my sewer hoses from the Hi-Lo that I traded in. I had about 15' of hose, and the OEM tube was only for an 8' hose. They only charged me a small fee to do this. No, I don't use caps..
-OK, now having gone through the list, here's my recomendations:
#s 1, 2, and three: Yes, get them!
#4; sure, why not/
#5; yes, ocassionally you may need it.
#6; there are many tank treatments out there, Use locally purchased stuff.
#7; I don't have a dog.
#8; I didn't go that route, but one time my 'surge guard' died protecting my Hi-Lo in a thunder storm. cost $165 for a new one; cheap insurance.
#9; are you winter camping? If not, forget it.
#10; Good stuff, but 'Yikes" expensive.
#11; never needed a water bandit yet.
#12; Is your Classic a 50 Amp job? If so, get it. Just don't use the second A.C.
#13; winterizer? Make your own. I did. cost $1.50
#14; see #12
#15; If you're using the Camco water filter, not required; although I do use a 45 deg. elbow.
#16; HUH?? what the hell is that????
#17; Make your own. Mine cost me about $2.00
#18; I've never used one for mine; just use the dump stn. hose.
#19; I don't see the need. Valterra makes a very good water regulator that is set at about 55 psi. The Airstream internal regulator is set at 65 psi.
#20; If winter camping, why not.
And as Forest Gump said: "And that's all that I have to say about that".
Good luck.
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Old 03-06-2016, 11:08 AM   #17
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Thanks. Ya, my job will require me to camp in below freezing temps as I will be full timing.

#16 is wire mesh that rodents can't chew through. Although, I purchased stainless steel instead of copper to make sure there isn't any galvanic corrosion problems.

Has anyone "sealed" the belly of their Airstream? Thinking once I put all the stainless mesh in the gaps of using elastic roof sealants on all the panel overlaps and creases on the belly.
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Old 03-06-2016, 09:48 PM   #18
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In practice I don't find that it's possible to seal the belly completely. Mice will get through a remarkably small crack. I have sealed up a number of floor penetrations below the dinette which has helped a little with air infiltration and probably contributed to good luck keeping the mice out.

Stainless steel in contact with aluminum will still cause galvanic corrosion
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Old 03-06-2016, 11:39 PM   #19
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I wonder if rodents will chew through aluminum mesh:

http://www.amazon.com/New-York-Wire-...=aluminum+mesh

This site lists it resists a lot of rodents:

http://www.twpinc.com/8-mesh-010-epo...ed-aluminum-36

Funny, on a lot of Airstreams the access panel covers are stainless steel. I guess they count the hinge as not in contact.
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Old 03-07-2016, 12:23 AM   #20
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If you are going to use a metal mesh it would be better to use a zinc mesh so that it becomes the sacrificial anode to the aluminum if there is any cathodic corrosion.

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The heated hose is great, but it won't do much for the spigot or attachment point on your trailer (on mine there is about 8 inches of exposed pipe). A better alternative to the heated hose, although more space is needed for storage, is to purchase heater tape at Lowes http://www.frostking.com/automatic-e...at-cable-kits/ and Valterra's Ebonyline http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003VA...BFL&ref=plSrch in the length you need. Buy the heat tape a little longer so it covers the spigot and attachment point at your trailer. I had bad luck with Amazon sending me the wrong heat tape twice (a version that didn't kick on until 0 degrees) so I ended up purchasing locally at Lowes.

Wrap aluminum foil around the ebonyline and then secure the heater tape by spiraling electrical tape around the hose for the entire length. Follow this with lengths of foam pipe wrap to enclose the entire hose, and tape and wrap the excess heater tape in foam wherever needed.

Many times, the thermostats need to be in direct contact with metal, as metal conducts cold faster than air. Taping a piece of scrap angle iron, or even a table knife (not from the China cabinet; go to Goodwill or Dollar Tree!) to the thermostat improves performance of heated hoses and heat tapes.

Unless you are doing cold weather camping, heated hose is a bulky item to store. You should wait until you have the trailer, and have used it a few times on short, nearby trips, or even in the driveway, before going on a shopping spree. You will find that storage areas fill quickly, so you just want only what you really need and will use on nearly every outing.


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Many times, the thermostats need to be in direct contact with metal, as metal conducts cold faster than air. Taping a piece of scrap angle iron, or even a table knife (not from the China cabinet; go to Goodwill or Dollar Tree!) to the thermostat improves performance of heated hoses and heat tapes.

Unless you are doing cold weather camping, heated hose is a bulky item to store. You should wait until you have the trailer, and have used it a few times on short, nearby trips, or even in the driveway, before going on a shopping spree. You will find that storage areas fill quickly, so you just want only what you really need and will use on nearly every outing.


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After reading the whole thread, you will need heated hose. If in campgrounds, with protected water supply, you won't need 50'. I have a 12' heated hose which did fine in weather down to single digits. The weak spot was inside the AS where my 08 Classic made the connection from the hose. This was in a cabinet under the belly, and the heated hose needed a short nonheated hose to make the connection, as the heated was too rigid for the bend. A 100 watt light bulb in the compartment helped, with extra weather strip, but, the brass fittings still froze, and, the pipe coming from the city connection to inside the bath and heated interior space was also subject to some freezing. Best solution is to fill your fresh tank and use that, until the weather warms and you can get the water flowing again.

Frozen waste tank valves will happen. You can leave the gray tank open, but not the black, unless you want to see Mt Crapmore. You can add rock salt through the toilet, to aid in keeping the black valve from freezing. If the gray freezes, pour boiling water down the slinky from the sewer end, held up, and slosh it against the valve. You may have to repeat, but the valve will loosen enough to pull.


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Stainless steel in contact with aluminum will still cause galvanic corrosion
<<Stainless steel fasteners in aluminium plates or sheets are normally considered safe, whereas aluminium rivets or bolts holding stainless steel parts together is an unwise combination, as there is a practical risk of corrosion.

An example of the safe use of stainless steel and aluminium together is where stainless steel fasteners and hold down bolts are used to secure aluminium roadway or bridge parapet guards.
Even with no insulation between the metals, there should be little risk of corrosion.>>
<http://www.bssa.org.uk/topics.php?article=89>

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Mike, good info.

What do you guys think of the Sewer Solution?

http://www.amazon.com/Valterra-SS01-...ct_top?ie=UTF8
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You may want to consider having Airstream add a flag box to your rig. I find the extra storage useful. Also I think this 15 to 50 amp plug will be more useful than the one your originally listed. I have one of these and I plug an extension cord in in when in storage. Easy to hook up with no extra connectors.

Conntek 14222 RV 1.5-Foot Pigtail Adapter Power Cord 15 Amp Male Plug To 50 Amp 125/250 Volt Locking Female Connector available at Amazon.
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Flag box? Unfamiliar with that term.
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Old 03-07-2016, 10:39 PM   #27
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Mike, good info.

What do you guys think of the Sewer Solution?

http://www.amazon.com/Valterra-SS01-...ct_top?ie=UTF8

One of my favorites. I carry a slinky in the storage tube, but sewer solution is my favorite. Easy to use, pumps uphill if I need to, and is self cleaning. I needed to add a clear straight sewer extension to make it easier to connect between my dump valves, they are very close together on my AS.


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I wonder how the Sewer Solution would play out in below freezing conditions.
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