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Old 12-13-2016, 11:46 AM   #15
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I'm amazed how little snow was on the road for this to happen. Just a dust of snow, on a curvy mountain road. Be safe out there everyone
My guess is that black ice was the culprit in this accident. It's common in the PNW and deadly. Like C02 it's invisible....
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Old 12-13-2016, 12:07 PM   #16
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My guess is that black ice was the culprit in this accident. It's common in the PNW and deadly. Like C02 it's invisible....
While CO2 (carbon dioxide) is invisible (provides the fizz in soda) and deadly (we expel when exhaling), I'm guessing that you are referring to carbon monoxide (CO). Carbon monoxide is the odorless gas given off as a result of combustion and for which there are detectors for living space in addition to smoke detectors.


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Old 12-13-2016, 12:38 PM   #17
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While CO2 (carbon dioxide) is invisible (provides the fizz in soda) and deadly (we expel when exhaling), I'm guessing that you are referring to carbon monoxide (CO). Carbon monoxide is the odorless gas given off as a result of combustion and for which there are detectors for living space in addition to smoke detectors.


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Interesting post and glad she didn't get hurt, although I don't understand how the sequence connect, starting with: " I backed off the gas and the rear of the truck broke free".
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Interesting post and glad she didn't get hurt, although I don't understand how the sequence connect, starting with: " I backed off the gas and the rear of the truck broke free".
If you had ever been on black ice, you'd understand.
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Interesting post and glad she didn't get hurt, although I don't understand how the sequence connect, starting with: " I backed off the gas and the rear of the truck broke free".
That is exactly what happens when you are on slick roads,you keep a slight pull at all times...
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I hope the op is okay, haven't heard from her in years. I think she also had a BMW mc?
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I'm glad this thread was revived. It shows me, black ice covered with a dusting of snow, is a bad combination. If the truckers are waiting out a storm, so should we. Be safe everyone.
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I've been wondering about exhaust brakes on the newer diesels only working on the rear wheels, are they tied in with the anti-lock brake system? Seems like a potential problem under low traction conditions like the first rain or sudden hail storm? Does anybody notice extra tire wear of rear tires? Don't mean to hijack the thread, just wondering.
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Good questions.
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Old 12-15-2016, 06:19 AM   #25
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Interesting post and glad she didn't get hurt, although I don't understand how the sequence connect, starting with: " I backed off the gas and the rear of the truck broke free".
Now that the thread has been revived, this is the same thing that will happen driving on wet pavement or standing water.

I was towing a 12' UHaul west bound with my extended cab Chevy along I-10 by Live Oak just after a rain and noticed the rain had puddled in the road ruts ahead so I decided to back off the accelerator and slow down. In hindsight not a good idea at that instance. The trailer pushed the rear end of the truck around and jack-knived the truck and trailer so that I was now traveling backwards and the trailer was alongside heading in the opposite direction, still connected. Steering was non-responsive. Like sliding on ice going across wet grass. I slid across the median (about 80 yards) and stopped in the middle of the east bound lanes. I was lucky there was a break in traffic and to get away with a dent in the side panel and a very bruised ego. I checked trailer and truck, and proceeded on my way.
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I hope the op is okay, haven't heard from her in years.
Sounds as though she's sold her Airstream...but looking for a new one. She seems to check in every once & a while though.

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Also there was a thread about putting chains on trailer tires. IMO worthless as not a driving axle and when start sliding side ways, exaperates the slide and no way to stop slide. I have never seen big truck drivers put chains on trailers. Hydroplaning on water will also cause loss of steering control.
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I've been wondering about exhaust brakes on the newer diesels only working on the rear wheels, are they tied in with the anti-lock brake system? Seems like a potential problem under low traction conditions like the first rain or sudden hail storm? Does anybody notice extra tire wear of rear tires? Don't mean to hijack the thread, just wondering.
The same with big trucks, engine brake is off on icy roads...
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