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Old 07-10-2010, 09:51 PM   #29
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laynlow...what exactly were the problems you had during the rain? Did it leak or just to cramped?
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Old 07-10-2010, 10:24 PM   #30
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I'll tell everyone who intends to keep their Airstream that valuation affects you whether you keep it or intend to sell it. I just found this out when a tree fell on my 2006 Safari SE. I paid a little over $44,000 for the trailer brand new. When the tree fell on the trailer, it turns out that the insurance company came very close to "totaling" the trailer and giving me only $23,000. Who wants to buy a trailer for $44,000, use it four years, "wreck it", and get so little? Well, that the problem with these things. You pay for insurance, thinking you're protecting your risk of loss. After a unit like mine is totaled and they hand you $23,000, you don't have enough to buy a comparable used unit in my opinion. And let me add, my insurance company is a big one, USAA in San Antonio, not some shyster outfit. Bottom line: when you buy an Airstream, you are forced to self insure to a material degree.

At the end of the day, my situation was such that I got over $16,000 to repair the unit. But just a little more damage and they would have insisted on giving me $23,000 and I'd of had to transfer title.

Normal. You weren't being scamed or anything. Depreciation is what it is, and it's at it's worse in the first few years. Surely you have bought a new car or truck and noticed the same thing? Just because I happen to know exactly what a 2006 Expedition King Ranch sold for new, and it's close to what you paid for your 'stream, ($43,421) I looked on cars.com to see what they are going for, and low and behold, there is one at a dealer great shape, under 50k miles, asking 24,995. If you know much about used cars/trucks, you know it will leave the lot for 10-15% less than asking price, if a buyer sticks to their guns. Same sort of thing. When we bought or big EX, gas was $4+ a gallon. it booked for 25k, we paid 17k. I bet we were the only full size SUV sale they made that quarter. You CAN get replacement cost insurance, but it costs a lot, because you are effectivly insuring your depreciation.

If you can't find a resolution to your buyer's remorse, I agree with the suggestion to offer to trade for what you really want, you need to figure out what 5th wheel or whatever has all the features you need, figure out which ones are of equal value in your eyes, and then go looking for someone who has what you would buy, and see if they want what you have. The whole world used to work like that.
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Old 07-10-2010, 10:59 PM   #31
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Hi, it's not just depreciation; The dealer is not going to pay, the same or more than what his original cost is on a new trailer. And he is going to have to do a safety check before he can sell it again. $$$$$ Also he plans on making a profit on this second hand sale. $$$$$ So trade in prices are adjusted in his favor, or no deal. Buying something new and changing your mind can be very costly. Now, if I read this correctly the original poster wants out of his Airstream and into a fifth wheel; He also bought a new SUV to tow the Airstream with. So the new SUV needs to be replaced with a pick-up truck, at another great loss. Good Luck.
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Old 07-10-2010, 11:04 PM   #32
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What insurance do you have?
progressive

jack and i both have this policy.

it's available when buying NEW, not sure how it's structured on NEARLY new or 2nd owners.

given your location the P policies are LESS money if you go to an agent.

online the prices will be higher (in ks) but an indi agent can do better...

((many things affect rates))

also disappearing deductible (started at 1000$ it is now ZERO )

and a % of the premiums paid are returned after a few years...

as i recall ~100$ back this year.

it's a very very good RV specific insurance policy.

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Old 07-10-2010, 11:36 PM   #33
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All the lights and fixture are the same. [/B] Fridge, AC, nothing different.

An SOB will last 20+ years if looked after. Just like an AS.

Mine has been around for 42 years. From what I see of the declining quality of AS I would not expect a new one to last that long.

But I love my AS I will deal with the limited space and storage for the great tow and the shine once I get it polished.


It's the way of life. IF you want out of the AS you will lose money.
What??? You sound like someone who is trying to make themselves happy for not being able to "obtain" a new Airstream.

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Old 07-11-2010, 12:16 AM   #34
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Old 07-11-2010, 12:54 PM   #35
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bob snagged a cedar creek 5th wheel.

these are very very nice and have ALL the features reported.

u can read about his here...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f468...ums-63381.html

it's no where near as svelte as a stream...

and i still believe the fatdog 34 i drag will tow better at 75-80 mph...

and it's not shaped like an expanded beer can...

but they are good units.

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I don't have anything against other brands or 5th wheels, really. I just couldn't believe that you can haul a monster 4-slider w/fireplace, king bed, full refer/freezer, thick walls and 2 big tv's at the same mpg as an '08 28' Stream. What makes this possible? Are they the same weight? I would think just the high profile of most 5th's would cost you a couple of mpgs.

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Got it all covered. Thanks for your input!


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Hi, it's not just depreciation; The dealer is not going to pay, the same or more than what his original cost is on a new trailer. And he is going to have to do a safety check before he can sell it again. $$$$$ Also he plans on making a profit on this second hand sale. $$$$$ So trade in prices are adjusted in his favor, or no deal. Buying something new and changing your mind can be very costly. Now, if I read this correctly the original poster wants out of his Airstream and into a fifth wheel; He also bought a new SUV to tow the Airstream with. So the new SUV needs to be replaced with a pick-up truck, at another great loss. Good Luck.
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:51 PM   #37
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When you get an AS, it's an emotional connection, not a rational decision.. It's liking what you see and then loving what you have.
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Old 07-13-2010, 12:24 AM   #38
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I'm reading this thread and wishing I had the money to go buy a new airstream then re-think my decision. Instead I have two older ones, I think about them, and the money I have put into them and am going to be putting into them . . .wait a second. .. maybe I do have enough money for a new airstream. . . Thanks for making me think.
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Old 07-14-2010, 12:28 PM   #39
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I'm reading this thread and wishing I had the money to go buy a new airstream then re-think my decision. Instead I have two older ones, I think about them, and the money I have put into them and am going to be putting into them . . .wait a second. .. maybe I do have enough money for a new airstream. . . Thanks for making me think.
Maybe you do have the money.. and you could have a new one.


But then all you would have is a new AS.

You know you would rather save/love/enjoy those vintage airs..

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Old 07-14-2010, 12:56 PM   #40
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Value

It has been a while since I felt the need to post a reply, but this topic moved me to respond. Anyone purchasing an RV in the current economic climate should expect to lose money on their purchase. RV's are not an investment vehicle, they are a recreational vehicle period..

I purchased a 1988 34' Limited model and spent money to repair and upgrade for my wife and I to travel and see this wonderful country, which we have done spending two years going coast to coast, hitting 40 states.

The wonders we have seen were worth the money spent, and if the day comes and I sell my 88 any return I get will be the icing on the cake...

Memories and adventures are priceless, and worth every penny....

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Maybe you do have the money.. and you could have a new one.


But then all you would have is a new AS.

You know you would rather save/love/enjoy those vintage airs..

Well that is so true we are also of the vintage group and have put a bunch of money into him....but don't regret if for anything. I love my AS more than any of the SOB's that we have had and will never again own in the future. We started out the other way with being forced after hurricane Katrina to live in our SOB 31' box, with super slides, and etc. etc. I HATED that camper before and could not wait to get that off my back asap. Then we bought a gently used trail manor....loved it and was great to pull, easy to handle and cheap on the mpg......but got tired of having to put every stinking thing on the floor to fold it down....then we moved UP in the world to a 1976 24' Argosy!!!!! Wow even at 34 years young and all of the money that has gone into him and the more money still to come I would not even look back once. And we looked at the new AS and thought for about 1 nano second and said UH no......why pay that LARGE sticker price and worry about down the road....I like my very paid off vintage Argosy and don't think that he will be traded ever.....our kids are getting older and we are setting him up for a nice travel situation for me and the DH and 2 of our pups. And if I have my way in it (which I usually do) thanks to a great DH, we will use him into our golden....retirement ages....after I finish school for my RN hopefully he will be used more and more as I would love to start working as a traveling nurse.....once both the kids are off to college.!!!!
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If Airstreams are like cars the dealer's discount from the factory, is probably about 22% off the suggested retail price.

This means, if you tow a brand new one off the lot and bring it back the next day he will offer maybe 25% off the suggested retail price, why, because he can buy a brand new one wholesale for a few bucks more.

I hope this does not upset anyone, it is not meant to, it is just math. So now you know why they offer so little for a trade in.

Plus, they have to think about what it will cost to clean, advertise, pay a salesman's commission, pay the overhead of the dealership, pay taxes and hopefully make enough profit to put bread and butter on the table for their families.

So, the obvious answer is not to trade in but sell privately. This is not for everybody and is not exactly a bed of roses but if the money is tight might be the way to go.
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