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Old 08-29-2008, 07:53 PM   #15
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It's gotta be in Minnesota.

One word: GLOBAL WARMING!
leave a map so we can find you to thaw you out!
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Old 08-29-2008, 08:46 PM   #16
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leave a map so we can find you to thaw you out!
Yeah, we all enjoy a good laff!

. . . but on a more serious note, don't you wonder why anybody lives in Minnesota?

1. I enjoy sitting in front of a warm fire watching the snow fall.
2. We have four seasons. Florida has HOT!
3. We don't have hurricanes, earthquakes, or alligators.
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Old 08-29-2008, 09:53 PM   #17
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That is a superb idea. No doubt you have figured out that there are tons of places to boondock, or nearly boondock the winter away for next to nothing.
That sounds appealing, but I tend to get bored. What I've been thinking is selling myself off as a propane filler at some Arizona campground or another in exchange for free rent. (My dad claims that licensed fillers are in short supply among snowbirds.) Or maybe working at a state or national park/monument for a few days a week.

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Old 08-29-2008, 10:08 PM   #18
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That sounds appealing, but I tend to get bored. What I've been thinking is selling myself off as a propane filler at some Arizona campground or another in exchange for free rent. (My dad claims that licensed fillers are in short supply among snowbirds.) Or maybe working at a state or national park/monument for a few days a week.

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All excellent ideas. You would ROCK as a campground host or better yet as interpretive staff at one of the national parks. I know I have started earlier than most with the traveling thing, but I don't see how you are going to go wrong getting out and rotating the tires on your airstream.
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Old 08-29-2008, 11:18 PM   #19
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Ft. Davis, TX... no snow (to speak of... usually gone by 3PM the following day - civilized), no hurricanes, no earthquakes, spaceport nearby, McDonald Observatory right there, Marfa close by for the hippity-hip inclined... and land that's real cheap.

'Course, have to locate areas where trees are taller than men... but the mountains certainly are...

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Better stop now... it gets even better...
Good idea, I love the area. My Dad is from Alpine, we've visited Ft. Davis and the Davis Mountains many, many times.
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All excellent ideas. You would ROCK as a campground host or better yet as interpretive staff at one of the national parks. I know I have started earlier than most with the traveling thing, but I don't see how you are going to go wrong getting out and rotating the tires on your airstream.
Oh, I suspect they'd want better informed folks that moi as interpretive staff. Probably wind up selling trinkets at a gift shop or cleaning bathrooms. As long as it doesn't involve sitting on a tractor to push show four days a week, I think I'd be happy!

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Hey, it's all about location, location, location! How about southwest Missouri? Centrally located in the US, close to all the fishing you would ever want, Branson, plenty of casinos, 4 seasons, parks, mountains, lakes, rivers, national forests, close to Tulsa, Springfield, Kansas City and best of all, COLAW's for airstream salvage!
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don't you wonder why anybody lives in Minnesota?
1. I enjoy sitting in front of a warm fire watching the snow fall.
2. We have four seasons. Florida has HOT!
3. We don't have hurricanes, earthquakes, or alligators.
at least in FL you don't have to shovel the sun. i used to like all the seasons here in southern ny. now, i can't take extremes anymore. ingrid and this forum have taught me that with the Airstream, i can go to any climate that suits me. the US is a wonderful place!
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Hurricane season is only from June 1st until November 31st the rest of the year your safe. Well ok Alligators bite all year long. And it did snow here in 1989 4 inches but this is North Florida or as some call it Lower Alabama...SAM
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If you're serious about this, then, well, there are hurdles. Assuming you can get through the permitting process -- this varies, but keep in mind that a lot of places think that RV campgrounds are "mobile home parks" (aka low-income housing) and are therefore unwanted in pretty areas -- then you start spending lots of bucks, more than you might imagine:

1. Land purchase. Ugh. This runs the gamut, but if you're talking agreed-upon pretty country, count on a LOT of money. Think a few hundred thousand bucks for raw land.

2. Sewers are not cheap. For example, recently we connected the existing sewer system to the village system. This involved laying lines along the existing roads and connecting at one end to the city and at several points into the existing system. The job is not completed quite yet, but the cost? Right around $70K, estimated. That figure would be at least double that if we'd decided to redo the system from scratch, as if it were new construction.

3. The national average to supply 50 amp power to sites is now around $6K per site. Subtract a bit for 30 amp, but not much less.

4. A small load of gravel (~2.5 yards) runs around $55, all costs factored in, if you do the loading and spreading yourself with park-owned equipment, which would also need to be purchased. For new construction, you're talking many dozens of loads of gravel of different grades. (By comparison, a single large belly-dumper of gravel runs around a thousand if you do the spreading yourself with park-owned equipment. You'd need a pretty good number of these loads.)

5. Wells run anywhere from $5K to $20K, depending on depth, rock, and so forth. This is just for the well. Pumps, pressure tanks, and all lines to sites are extra. Digging lines alone will run you anywhere from $65 to $100 per hour of labor, depending on location.

6. At this point, you have sites, but no buildings of any kind. But you're up and running.

7. Once you're up and running with sites, then factor in a bunch of fixed monthly costs that will need to be covered year-round, whether its full of Airstreams or empty. Your local village officials and related providers of amenities will have lots ot say about this. Continuing monthly costs put a real strain on the system financially.

Of course, keep in mind that Canada and the US combined are way to big to consider just one of these things. You'd practically need several.

I know that brute costs are probably going to throw a bit of a bucket of sand on the idea, but it is worthwhile to think it through.


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