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Old 08-20-2014, 09:30 PM   #43
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Man, I can barely begin to find the words looking at those photos. Our vehicle isn't as new, and we're buying a used Airstream, but to just have everything and be setting out on what should be an adventure and to have your world basically turned upside down. Glad you guys weren't seriously hurt. Praying your insurance companies move quickly in restoring everything. And hoping this won't deter you from future adventures and fun.

Good luck Pat.
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Old 08-20-2014, 10:06 PM   #44
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I just learned of your misfortune, my greatest fear while traveling. I think the advice about the value of your trailer is correct, NADA values are unrealistic. Be sure to point the PD adjuster to sites that reflect the true market value of your trailer.(airstreamclassifieds) and others. Do not settle the PD claim until you been made whole. Some insurance company are better than others. If the 3rd party carrier is not offering the true market value, then turn the claim over to your own insurance company and see what they offer. Your insurance carrier will pursue the other in arbitration. If neither meets your expectations, see if you can get legal help. Sorry for your our loss.
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Old 08-20-2014, 11:28 PM   #45
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Glad your O.K. This is what I worry about when traveling any where. I saw a driver texting with a smashed front end. You would ''think'' that they would have learned after the first crash. I hope that I can be as understanding as you were after finding out the cause of accident. Should be mandatory jail time for texting.
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Old 08-21-2014, 09:22 AM   #46
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That is a nightmare come true. I am happy to hear you were not injured.
I am with those that think texting and driving is as bad as drunk driving. I would say the offender got off very easy!!
Best of luck with the insurance.
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Old 08-21-2014, 11:00 AM   #47
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Yeah, glad you all are ok. It's like 'Mad-Max' on the highways these days.
You know, it says something for the construction of the Airstream that it was not peeled open. So often you see Travel trailers cracked open and items strewn about the interstate. I am impressed with how well you Airstream survived the calamity, and your GMC.
Sounds like you handled the situation in a calm, professional manner. The one time I was hit by a drunk driver, I didn't do so well.
Your family is in our prayers.
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Old 08-21-2014, 10:34 PM   #48
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Sure am glad you both are basically okay.

Incidents like this do not always turn out okay. At least the culprit that caused the accident is known. Not mentioned so far is the idea of a civil lawsuit for damages not covered by the weasel insurance companies). Do some home work with your attorney as you may need his letterhead as coercion with the insurance companies.

The trailer and tow vehicles will eventually be replaced.
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Old 08-21-2014, 10:43 PM   #49
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God bless you guy's came out ok without any scratches frōm this horrenduos accident, most important is that you and tour familly are ok. Needless to say, that both of your vehicles performed great to protect you as I can see from the pictures, the AS and whatever hitch you had did their job. Hope you get back on the road soon and put this incident behind, this is ne of those things that are impossible to avoid and can happen to anyone of us. I am convinced that after looking at those pictures that the AS performed as the best safest TT is out there on the roads. God Bless you are ok. Tony
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Old 08-22-2014, 07:22 AM   #50
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Sure am glad you both are basically okay.

Incidents like this do not always turn out okay. At least the culprit that caused the accident is known. Not mentioned so far is the idea of a civil lawsuit for damages not covered by the weasel insurance companies). Do some home work with your attorney as you may need his letterhead as coercion with the insurance companies.

The trailer and tow vehicles will eventually be replaced.
Totally agree about the civil suit (and I'm not a fan of the frivolous lawsuits that are the new "lottery" in the US - but this one warrants action in my unprofessional opinion).

A for my profession - I work at an insurance company and I'm not offended by your characterization - though I'd offer for your consideration a few points.

1) insurance is an odd product in that you buy it in the hopes of never using it and 99% of the time, we understand the basic concepts but VERY few specifics on the contract language, the actual coverage we have or don't have, jurisdictional differences in legal interpretation of the contract, etc. It's very simple on the surface and exceedingly complicated in practice. That it can't be summarized in a bumper sticker contributes to that "weasel" feeling.

2) some carriers (the one I work for, which doesn't provide RV coverage) train their Claim professionals to FIND coverage in the contract and to pay what is owed - period. Others may go about that process differently. Choose wisely. Very often that lowest price is not lowest overall cost.

3) Insurance is actually a very non-weasely business. If you've seen Jimmy Stewart in "It's a Wonderful Life" - its like that scene where there's a run on the bank (their savings and loan) and he's telling them - your money isn't in the vault, it's in Sam's house and Sally's kid's education....etc. It's amazing how we all pool our funds (premiums) like a community (and we rarely know all the other members of that community) so no one of us has to take a catastrophic hit. Yes, some people never have a loss or need to make a claim and you could say they "wasted" their money. For some, having the peace of mind of knowing they are covered (and hopefully the exact definition of that in the event of a loss) is worth the funds.

These are my opinions - not my employer's. everyone's mileage may vary.

As for Pat's situation - I'm so glad you guys are ok though I am so tired of seeing people texting while driving I could literally scream! I think this is worse than drunk driving because in theory, you're not impaired and should be able to make a better decision - like - put your damn phone down and think about the other drivers on the road and not only your narcissistic self! Argh!!!!
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I'm with Tyvekat. Given the explanation of the accident as it happened, I think the pictures show that both vehicles performed beautifully. I think the AS might be a good salvage title to work on. It's tough to see your new baby banged up like that and Paula may be right that there is hidden damage but by and large the AS looks very in-tact and salvageable (for someone who wants to take that on). I would not think that an SOB would have the same integrity inside and out with a external hit and then high speed jackknife and roll. Pat, we are very glad that you and your wife were not seriously injured. Thanks for sharing so much of your story with us.
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Old 08-22-2014, 09:57 AM   #52
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So glad you came through this all right!!
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Old 08-22-2014, 10:03 AM   #53
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I have an AS dealer acquaintance who bought a salvage title rollover and repaired it for his personal use. I haven't seen it, but he says it tows perfectly, looks fine on the outside, but if you sit and study the interior really hard, some stuff just isn't square and/or lined up perfectly. He said if someone came in and didn't know it had been totaled, they probably wouldn't even notice.
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Old 08-22-2014, 10:21 AM   #54
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Thank God, you are ok! The rest is fluff. Good luck as you go on.

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I'm with Tyvekat. Given the explanation of the accident as it happened, I think the pictures show that both vehicles performed beautifully. I think the AS might be a good salvage title to work on. It's tough to see your new baby banged up like that and Paula may be right that there is hidden damage but by and large the AS looks very in-tact and salvageable (for someone who wants to take that on). I would not think that an SOB would have the same integrity inside and out with a external hit and then high speed jackknife and roll. Pat, we are very glad that you and your wife were not seriously injured. Thanks for sharing so much of your story with us.
Dear Super - you are so right about what would have happened to an SOB in a wreck. I've seen four of those wrecks. A big fiver had one whole side come off - and everything that was against that wall went flying too down about 300 yards of highway median. It looked like a semi was trying to pass it and perhaps the 5th wheel got sucked into the side of the trailer. I was actually surprised that as much of the trailer remained in one piece! This one didn't even go over, it was still on its wheels when I drove past in the other direction. The other three simply disintegrated as the side hit the ground. The Airstream is a crushed tin can, but it's in one piece.

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Old 08-22-2014, 12:49 PM   #56
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[QUOTE="Pat Cassity;1497036"]Yesterday was a day that my wife and I will remember for the rest of our lives.

Thankfully you and your wife weren't seriously hurt. I had déjà vu when I read the thread, as back in June my wife and I were leaving the Amarillo KOA heading to I 40 when making a left turn a truck came flying from my left and drove around the front of our truck and skidded back on the road. Turns out the driver of the truck told me he saw my blinker for the left turn, but he zoned out and almost hit the rear of our trailer, and he managed to drive like Dale Earnhart Jr. And catastrophe was avoided.

Looking at your pictures I realize how bad it could have been. This has to be every Airstreamers nightmare, as we can control how we drive but are at the mercy of fate with other less careful drivers. Good luck with your insurance carrier, and safer travels in the future...

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