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Old 09-14-2007, 11:46 AM   #1
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25'er vs 27'er

Back again with yet another question.......
We are very close to deciding to take the plunge(and loss) and trade in our 2007 25'er (in the shop for repairs) for a 2008 27'er FB.
The 25'er drives beautifully with our Ford250. You hardly notice it's there sometimes.
With a 27'er will we notice any driving difficulties we don't have now with our 25'er? Will it maneuver about the same going up a curvy hill?
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Old 09-14-2007, 12:19 PM   #2
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consider twins

We have a Safari 25FB/SE queen. Can't tell you if a 27FB would pull much different, but I doubt it. Shouldn't be an issue with an F250.

I would like to make one suggestion, I believe the 27FB comes in a queen and twin version. Yes the queen is nice for two together, but consider the twin. It has way more ouside storage and the floorplan feels more open because of the split between the beds, especially if you get the front pano windows. The bedroom with the twins also make for a nice kick back area if there are two couples or kids traveling. If two men are traveling together, boys weekend kinda stuff, two beds in the bedroom are better than one (usually).

I believe I remember the corner bed was one of your decision factors in upsizing, try laying down on the twin, you never know til you try. Don't get me wrong, we love our queen, and it sits sideways, not as good as the 27FB, but it works for us.

It is a personal thing. I think you are doing the right thing no matter what configuration you get, the idea is to really enjoy your home on the road.

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Old 09-14-2007, 12:39 PM   #3
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Thanks John
It's not so much the corner bed in the 25 SS but the toilet! Absolutely no room! A joke if you ask me.
We have been debating on the Queen vs the Twin. Twin for the reasons you mentioned vs the roominess of the queen bed. We're also debating on the color....paprika vs. cilantro. The cushions in our ocean breeze got very dirty fast with two boys so we're thinking the brown in the Cilantro might be the better choice this time. AND....the dealer has the Q bed version ready for pick up...we won't have to wait until Dec/Jan and can squeeze in a couple of more weekends this year!
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Thanks John
It's not so much the corner bed in the 25 SS but the toilet! Absolutely no room! A joke if you ask me.
We have been debating on the Queen vs the Twin. Twin for the reasons you mentioned vs the roominess of the queen bed. We're also debating on the color....paprika vs. cilantro. The cushions in our ocean breeze got very dirty fast with two boys so we're thinking the brown in the Cilantro might be the better choice this time. AND....the dealer has the Q bed version ready for pick up...we won't have to wait until Dec/Jan and can squeeze in a couple of more weekends this year!

You are in California......it a a year long season

We have the darker colors, year and a half and not a sign of soiling, we have twin 15 year old daughters, need I say more.
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millvalleyca -- Does the 25' CCD have the wider pull out platform for two just aft of the fridge? John is right on about the extra outside storage compartments with the twin arrangment! It makes our 25' a pocket cruiser IMO.

The 27' queen is front-to-back. That's a significant enhancement over the sideways queen of the 25'. The 27' has a larger pantry and hallway wardrobe. Your truck is certainly up to the task. I don't think they'd drive any differently -- they're still double axle widebodies of similar proportions. You already know that your California state parks campground slots are about as tight as anywhere.
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I have heard lots of folks say some NP and SP have a 25' limit. We have never run into this, and I don't know that it is an issue for you. Just something to keep in mind.
We saw the 27 FB last spring, boy is that a beauty.

Having said that, we are pretty sure we will stay with our 25' for a long time. Partly due to the above...
Kids don't stick around forever, we rarely hang out inside anyway, so usually have plenty of space. Also, kiddlins tend to set up a tent as they get a little older...

Your F250 will pull anything AS ever made.

Just some more food for thought.

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Old 09-14-2007, 01:15 PM   #7
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The CCD SS has the corner bed right next to the tiny bathroom, a dinette which converts to a small bed (short) and a pull out platform at the front of the trailer.

We don't need that much storage outside we have the big truck!

The layout of the 27FB is so much better than the 25SS. We thought we were CRAZY when we got the 25'er as our first trailer....we started out looking at the 19'er!

The longer we wait to make the trade the more money we loose on the trade in....so do it now or never!
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I get it! Your trade-in is a 25' International SS. I guess you were saying that all along. You're looking in the right direction IMO.
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We pull our 27' CCD FB Int'l with an F250 PSD LB CC. It's RWD only.

I can't compare a 25' CCD to a 27' FB but we had a 28' CCD before the 27' FB.

The FB is actually 1 inch longer than the 28' CCD.

I think the tongue weight on the 27' FB is a little less than the 28' CCD but towing seems to be the same.

I did not have to change any settings on the Equal-I-Zer hitch.

We're REALLY happy with the layout of the 27' FB.
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We're REALLY happy with the layout of the 27' FB.
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Hi Cosmotini
did you get the queen or twin bed config? Paprika or cilantro?
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25' is lighter and shorter, you will notice that. Do I really understand correctly that others do not feel a change in size? Maybe that's a "girl" thang but it is different not bad but it is bigger and heavier. DOH.

2' will not break or make the difference in storage or sites or storage, but it will be different. It looks longer too. 25' is more than ample, 27' is bigger, really it is.
If you do not want the queen bed to be center, stay with the 25' perhaps. You will manage on storage space.
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MillValleyCA,

Unless you plan full time travel in the Airstream and need the two larger storage spaces, the closet and the pantry, I don't think the extra length of the 27 over the 25 has any material advantage. Walking around the queen bed might matter, but as John has said, twin beds offer distinct advantages too.

Also, the kitchen sink in the 27 is a "baptismal font" and not a double sink like the one in the 25. That, and the somewhat larger under sink storage, is an important difference for my wife and is another reason for us to hold on to the 25.

We've been living full-time in our 25 for 2 months while we are between houses and find that the storage spaces in the 25 hold more than enough food and clothing, although the hanging space is just a bit tight.
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Hi Myoung
we have the 25SS not the 25FB
the advantages of the 27FB as I see it are...
queen bed not pushed to the corner (hard to make and really a bed for one)
a real bathroom with a real toilet

thanks everyone for your input
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