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Old 05-18-2019, 02:54 PM   #15
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Could you elaborate on the more wood tones coming to FC?

We are trying to decide on getting a 2019 or ordering a 2020. We would appreciate any info on changes to the 2020 FC.

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I am not quite sure, remember what I saw was half built trailers, some things are obvious others you have to guess. Anyhow, it seems the FC are coming with a light grey imitation wood vinyl flooring and the wood instead of the imitation bamboo is going to a slightly textured maple tone.
But please do not take my word for granted. I was sneaking in the trailers really fast.
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Old 05-18-2019, 08:19 PM   #16
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Well, I guess it's good to know someone is reading these posts I take the time to type!

My hope is that someone at JC will take these to heart. Consider for a second that AS pays folks good money whose job it is every year to study the market and design trends and select colors and fabrics for the trailers.

But anyone who reads these forums will soon discover common issues trailer after trailer.

Now, if I worked for a company that had a free user forum where I could glean free market research that would give insight on how to improve the product I sell, you can bet I would be reading it and have a team invested in it.

So I hope Thor is reading this forum and gaining insight into how to genuinely improve a good product and make it better. Some improvements like insulation and improving the floor would cost money, but not require a huge investment from design and engineering. AS FB models have already eliminated the suicide door, look at the FC 20 or 30 bunkhouse and ask why not these as well?

So much of the RV industry is filled with cheap trailers not designed to last. Few rolling out today will be in use come 2040. Certainly the interior design by then will be outdated. But the shell might still be valuable, if only the frame were not rusted out because the plywood floor leaked and rotted through.

So my hope is AS will make improvements in quality design and construction to better meet the brand promise it enjoys today. Something that takes a bit of effort, yes, but something worth so much more than annual cosmetic changes.
Notice that Airstream doesn't do any marketing here. At all.

This forum is mostly for people who already have Airstreams, and those few who really research their purchases before they buy. I you really want to promote these quality control issues, post comments where Airstream's new customers will find them - Youtube, Facebook, Twitter, etc.

I noticed in the dealer meeting video (above) that improving quality control is one of their goals with the new factory. It doesn't hurt to push Airstream to keep going with that.
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Old 05-18-2019, 09:09 PM   #17
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And then you have romantics, you might call them foolish like me, that are happy to have one of the last Airstreams coming out of the last factory.
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Old 05-18-2019, 11:06 PM   #18
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What's new; I'll tell you what's new. PRICES.

Hi, according to a Trailer Life article.

The new 30RB at 31' 3"s for $152,400.00.

The new 33FB at 33' for $166,900.00.

And if you can't afford one of those you can buy a new Nest 16'er for only $45,900.00.
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Old 05-19-2019, 10:35 AM   #19
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As an owner I am happy that prices keep going up, it really helps to maintain resale value. Anyhow, it is difficult to explain the price rise when the main material used i our trailers, Aluminium, is 25% down. We just did the factory tour and they keep saying that all the material except the appliances are made in the USA, therefore tariffs are not affecting either. So it just seems that the increasing demand keeps pushing prices up. They have to be doing really well with the AS and really bad with the rest of the brands, because the drop of Thor Ind stock is unexplainable on this context.
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Old 05-20-2019, 09:08 AM   #20
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Hi, according to a Trailer Life article.

The new 30RB at 31' 3"s for $152,400.00.

The new 33FB at 33' for $166,900.00.

And if you can't afford one of those you can buy a new Nest 16'er for only $45,900.00.
Heaven help Airstream if any disgruntled Nest owner ever does a YouTube video comparing it point by point against a Casita, Scamp, Oliver or any other "egg" trailer. Price would be crushingly obvious, except for Oliver, but even then feature by feature... there is that pesky "value" proposition. What do you GET for that $46K?

Heaven help the DEALERS when the potential buyers find out that other most other "egg" manufacturers have a 3 to 6 month waiting list, and a list of happy owners who voluntarily do "show and tell" demos of their brands.

Airstream does a LOT of ad promotions, mainly product placement (raisin brand), and clearly has made a SMART decision to slant its efforts to first time RV buyers rather than to its existing niche. (It is TRUE. Even people who have owned 3 or 4 Airstreams do not buy a new one every year or two, and you widen the pool of buyers or go under. And unfortunately, a sizable number of Airstream buyers are so unhappy they switch to other brands or abandon camping altogether.)

I really wanted to love the Nest when it was announced. I am aging out of full timing. Would still want to have a weekender and take a dozen short hops a year... with a low maintenance, light weight portable bedroom... but I have visited more than one dealer and am underwhelmed. I have seen better gelcoat and construction on 10 year old fiberglass tubs! Guess I'll hang onto Eddie.

BTW saw a Can-Am Spyder towing a craftsman's home made mahogany Teardrop last week. Geezers last stand!
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Old 05-22-2019, 03:20 PM   #21
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2020 Airstream Globetrotter 23 FB Twin

Video of the new 2020 Airstream Globetrotter 23 FB Twin by Patrick of Colonial Airstream: .
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Sweet. $97,500 fully loaded for a 23'. Nice ride!
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Old 05-24-2019, 10:25 AM   #23
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I heard new subfloor were in 2020

I heard somewhere, don't remember where, that AS was putting a new NOT wood, non rotting, subfloor in the 2020 models. I thought it's about time! Wonder if we will be able to confirm that in the next few days.
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Flying cloud gets a different stove and radio for 2020. From what I am told, it is not necessarily an upgrade, just a different supplier. No longer Dometic.
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Old 05-24-2019, 09:27 PM   #25
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Video of the new 2020 Airstream Globetrotter 23 FB Twin by Patrick of Colonial Airstream: .
Ours arrived today to the dealer. I’ll pick it up next week
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Old 05-25-2019, 06:09 AM   #26
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Compared to our International FB model, the 2020 23 Twin takes out the oven and relocates the microwave to under the new stovetop. Narrower/taller/larger capacity 3-way refrigerator. All to make room for driver side twin. Shorter closet allows room for twin on curb side. Better location for thermostat and solar panel IMHO. Upgraded mattresses.

A winner combo for sure!

Enjoy your new ride and let us know how it shakes out.
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The oven in the video is the convection microwave option which we opted for, but there is a gas oven. The closet on the drivers side looses the drawers (biggest backdrop in my opinion), but I am not quite sure that the bigger closet next to the freezer is any smaller.
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Old 05-25-2019, 09:46 AM   #28
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Originally Posted by Gallego.

Ours arrived today to the dealer. I’ll pick it up next week

I’ll bet you are excited, Gallego!

I’m almost done replacing the queen bed in my Serenity 23FB with two 34” x 80” twin beds, which are the same size as you are getting. I did not have to modify the roadside (side that the refrigerator is on) for the new twin bed frame and mattress to fit within the bedroom. For the curbside (side that the dinette table is on), I did remove the two drawers under the wardrobe in the bedroom for the twin bed to fit. You end up with extra space at the foot of the mattress under this curbside wardrobe, which Airstream placed a cubbyhole for storage in the Globetrotter 23FB Twin. The placement of this cubbyhole is displayed at time 1:51 in this video by Airstream of South Florida .

Combining the bedroom floor space into a single center aisle between the two twin beds makes the bedroom more functional in my view. You have picked a terrific floor plan and model to enjoy!
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