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Old 04-18-2003, 07:47 AM   #15
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Good a.m. RC Menz

Now about the "squat" you mean that it does under load change the rear tire camber/caster (not sure that's the way to describe the slant) from straight up and down to slanted?


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Old 04-18-2003, 08:33 AM   #16
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Regarding the crash worthiness of the F-150. While the Expedition and the F-150 are indeed similar, in reality the only thing they share is the front sheet metal and front doors. The reason the F-150 does so bad in crashes in the extended cab version is the rear half doors, they latch into the front doors and add no strength to the body. Tweak the body in a good crash and the whole thing pops open. The Expedition has front doors that latch into and rear doors that are anchored to stationary pillars, much stronger.


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Old 04-18-2003, 09:21 AM   #17
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Physically, Chas, what you say appears to be the case in the pictures, but with an extended cab can perform well in the test.

Toyota Tundra

Newer Dodge Ram vs Older Dodge Ram

And even with the door remaining closed, the Chevy doesn't fair much better than the Ford.

So I wouldn't entirely blame the extended cab design.

It's pretty obvious I also drive an extended cab Ford, but it's a little different.
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Old 04-20-2003, 09:07 AM   #18
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My small concern with our 2003 Expedition is that it rides very nicely empty. (not harsh at all on the interstate) Adding 700 lbs of tounge weight could potentially make it drop down a couple of inches on the coil springs. If it does and we occasionally bottom out the suspension I will spring for the air adjustable strut towers. I will find out in June when we take our first trip with the new rig. I don't think it could toe in or out, that massive rear IRS looks "Truck Tuff" and well designed.
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You will find the new rear suspension far superior to the traditional axle design. There will not be much squat, and the control and ride is much better than with the solid axle/leaf spring design. with 700lbs of tongue weight, you'll more thanlikely be using a weight distributing hitch anyways.
I would be much more concerned with gearing and cooling etc.

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