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01-20-2009, 06:53 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2007 19' Bambi
Delton
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 71
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New white plastic roofs !
Hi Streamers...
My 2007 Bambi has a white plastic roof! When did Airstream go away from aluminum roofs? I was surprised when I got up there for the first wash... and abhorred at the messy job of puttying around the A/C and all the vents. Has anyone used aluminum tape to put flashing over the putty? I heard this can greatly extend the life of the putty and prevent it's drying out and cracking.
All opinions appreciated.
Phantom
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01-20-2009, 07:02 AM
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Rivet Master
1977 31' Sovereign
1963 26' Overlander
1989 34' Excella
Johnsburg
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,944
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The roofs have been white since they went to the wide body configuration in '95. They are not plastic. They are aluminum that have been painted/coated/laminated with a plastic like material during the manufacture of the aluminum sheet. The ugly chalking job on the vents has been noted by many customers. Luckily most people do not climb up there to see it. Putting Aluminum duct tape over the chalking would likely prevent it from drying out and aging due to sun exposure. I have used high quality 3M brand for up to 14 years to seal holes.
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01-20-2009, 07:32 AM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
1973 27' Overlander
1963 19' Globetrotter
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,259
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I think the white roof would reflect a lot of heat,I`m thinking of putting Elastameric
[mispelled] on my Overlander ,has anyone done this,and with what results?
Dave
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01-20-2009, 07:35 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,280
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Ditto -- it's coated aluminum. The white keeps the inside cooler than bare metal. There have been any number of posts on owners of older Airstreams using an aftermarket product to coat their roofs. KoolSeal is commonly mentioned. I don't think I'd do it on the higher curved old vintage Airstreams.
On the quantity of caulk issue, I recently spied this at the factory from Google Earth. The sharp eyed reader will note the license plate saying, "Wednesday."
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01-20-2009, 08:01 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 28' International CCD
Willoughby
, Ohio
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 543
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We have that white roof on ours - we make sure to give it a good coat of Walbernize twice a year to prevent it from aging and then chalking.
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WBCCI# 03876
AIR# 6511
2005 28' CCD, 2011 Sierra 5.3L, Equal-I-Zer
Empty Nesters - spending our money on OURSELVES for a change!
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08-03-2009, 10:57 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2001 16' Bambi
Seattle
, Washington
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 6
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My white roof seems really soft and flexible. It does not feel like it is aluminum underneath. Is this your experience too? I can buckle it in out out with just my hand. What's up with that? Gina
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08-04-2009, 05:31 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 28' International CCD
Willoughby
, Ohio
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 543
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The newer white roofs ARE aluminum - we saw them at the factory and the purpose is to reflect heat. I think the literature claims 10-15% improvement in interior temperature with shite.
They do seem to be a thinner gauge than the sides though and care should be taken to walk or sit only on the structural ribs that run across the roof 9follow the lines of rivets) when you are up there doing maintenance.
We walbernize twice a year to prevent chalking as well.
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WBCCI# 03876
AIR# 6511
2005 28' CCD, 2011 Sierra 5.3L, Equal-I-Zer
Empty Nesters - spending our money on OURSELVES for a change!
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08-04-2009, 07:19 AM
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Retired.
Currently Looking...
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, At Large
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 21,276
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Quote:
Originally Posted by easyride
I think the white roof would reflect a lot of heat,I`m thinking of putting Elastameric
[mispelled] on my Overlander ,has anyone done this,and with what results?
Dave
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CanoeStream
Ditto -- it's coated aluminum. The white keeps the inside cooler than bare metal. There have been any number of posts on owners of older Airstreams using an aftermarket product to coat their roofs. KoolSeal is commonly mentioned. I don't think I'd do it on the higher curved old vintage Airstreams.
On the quantity of caulk issue, I recently spied this at the factory from Google Earth. The sharp eyed reader will note the license plate saying, "Wednesday."
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve & Susan
The newer white roofs ARE aluminum - we saw them at the factory and the purpose is to reflect heat. I think the literature claims 10-15% improvement in interior temperature with shite.
They do seem to be a thinner gauge than the sides though and care should be taken to walk or sit only on the structural ribs that run across the roof 9follow the lines of rivets) when you are up there doing maintenance.
We walbernize twice a year to prevent chalking as well.
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I painted the roof of our Sovereign white, with interesting results.
I did this while we installed new air conditioners on both our and our friends' Sovereigns. Their roof was not painted white. Our roof was 10 degrees cooler with both trailers sitting side-by-side. The interior of our trailer was cooler as well, by 8 degrees. Our new 13,500 btu a/c seems to be as effective as their 15,000 btu a/c, so it would be worth considering, especially if you live and camp in areas in full sunlight.
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08-06-2009, 01:26 AM
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Power to the People !
1972 31' Sovereign
SAN DIMAS
, California
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 447
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Anyone have pics they can post of what the white roofs look like on the newer models?
Mary
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08-06-2009, 04:11 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2009 30' Classic
Salem
, Alabama
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 96
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? what is the best method of gaining access to the roof, without damaging the side of the unit.woppa4
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08-06-2009, 04:56 AM
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Rivet Monster
1975 31' Sovereign
1980 31' Excella II
Sprung Leak
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 7,172
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Quote:
Originally Posted by woppa 4
? what is the best method of gaining access to the roof, without damaging the side of the unit.woppa4
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I lean a short extension ladder against the rolled up awning and climb on the roof. I wear a soft soled shoe (usually topsiders), stay on the ribs as much as possible. DO NOT step on the end caps. FWIW I am no lightweight either (220#)
Aaron
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08-06-2009, 06:05 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 28' International CCD
Willoughby
, Ohio
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 543
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Woppa4 -
I use a ladder with towels wrapped around the tops of the uprights and lean against the rolled up awnings (we have streetside awning too).
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WBCCI# 03876
AIR# 6511
2005 28' CCD, 2011 Sierra 5.3L, Equal-I-Zer
Empty Nesters - spending our money on OURSELVES for a change!
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08-06-2009, 07:06 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 25' Classic
Hydes
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 713
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Airstream needs to find a better way of sealing roof openings. The caulk is a mess. It's so poorly applied that you would think a child did it with their fingers. It's thick in some spots and thin in others. I seriously don't get why they go on as usual using a technique that is only effective until the sun starts drying it out, it cracks and then potential leaking. Is this a case of industry standard,so why change? I thought improving the product was a good thing? Maybe use a rubber gasket similar to ones used to seal vent openings on a house roof. How often to you have to get on your roof to reseal the vents? Come on Airstream this is an area that needs rethinking and improvement. Don't just change the cosemetics with new designer models make improvements that truly matter to the buyer.
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08-06-2009, 08:06 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,280
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I was in Alaska last week fishing with friends. We were in a Fleetwood Class C moho. Wish I had taken my camera up the ladder to look at the roof. The caulking was so very neat! It was as if they had masked with an adherent plastic sheet and pulled it off when they were done.
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08-06-2009, 08:20 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari FB SE
North/East
, New Jersey
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 367
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maryw164
Anyone have pics they can post of what the white roofs look like on the newer models?
Mary
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Maryw164....Attached are pictures of the white aluminum roof on my 2007 25'.
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2007 Safari 25' FBSE LS
2006 GMC Sierra 2500HD Crew Cab 4WD Duramax
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08-07-2009, 09:45 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2001 16' Bambi
Seattle
, Washington
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 6
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Mary, I'll take a picture of my white roof this weekend and post it next week....if I figure out how to post pictures. I can also email it directly to you. Gina
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08-07-2009, 10:45 PM
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Power to the People !
1972 31' Sovereign
SAN DIMAS
, California
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 447
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2dabeach,
Thanks, the pics give me a good idea of the parameters for where to start/stop the white paint line.
Mary
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08-08-2009, 08:07 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,280
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Mary, the roof pictured is different from yours in two ways. Post '93-'94, Airstreams over 22' had 6" extra width added. More significantly, roof and end cap contours flattened out at that time. You have the beautiful, more arched contours that makes new coach owners so envious. Way cool! We should probably get some input from Terry on this.
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08-10-2009, 05:23 AM
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Rivet Master
1977 31' Sovereign
1963 26' Overlander
1989 34' Excella
Johnsburg
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,944
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I painted my 1977 Sovereign,s roof white after a bad experience at the first Rapid City International, when we only had 3 amp service available and the temperatures reached 104 degrees in the shade (and there was no shade available in the treeless parking field). I painted it white from just above the awning to the split line on the opposite side where the roof meets the sidewalls. I put no paint on the hemispheres. To the casual observer, walking past at eye level, you can not see the white paint. If you look in the archives, you will note that some of the early Wally Byam caravans to the hot parts of the world, include trailers with white painted roofs that extend well down onto the sides. These were practical people who knew that "form should follow function" and did what was practical to make their travels bearable. I even think I have seen one of Wally's personal trailers with a roof that was painted white. I have not painted my 63's roof white yet but this weekend at 98 degrees without air may have changed my mind.
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11-13-2009, 10:52 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 23' International
La Habra
, California
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,019
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I need to reseal my vent on our 08, what type of sealant should I use?
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