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11-17-2009, 07:21 PM
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I Did That!
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Originally Posted by easyride
I think the white roof would reflect a lot of heat,I`m thinking of putting Elastameric
[mispelled] on my Overlander ,has anyone done this,and with what results?
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I coated my 75 Argosy with 4 coats of Elastomeric covering. It has several advantages: cooler, seals better, looks great. Keep it clean and apply a new coat every few years and you'll have no problems at all.
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11-17-2009, 07:43 PM
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Retired.
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Originally Posted by CanoeStream
We should probably get some input from Terry on this.
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Would you believe I missed this thread the first time around?
I painted ours with the local version of Kool Seal, known as Henry Seal. My painting pretty much followed the painted areas of the newer trailers, though it did extend a bit further fore and aft, down to the awning railo on the curb side, and along the edge of the center roof panel on the street side. It's been pretty effective keeping the temps a bit lower, and if it ever rains, we'll know if it leaks...
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11-17-2009, 08:01 PM
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You Trained Me Well!
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Originally Posted by overlander63
Would you believe I missed this thread the first time around?
I painted ours with the local version of Kool Seal, known as Henry Seal. My painting pretty much followed the painted areas of the newer trailers, though it did extend a bit further fore and aft, down to the awning railo on the curb side, and along the edge of the center roof panel on the street side. It's been pretty effective keeping the temps a bit lower, and if it ever rains, we'll know if it leaks...
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Terry, miss being on the forum and hearing all your genius insights! Hope all is well! It sounds like I treated the top of my Agrosy in the same way you did yours. Guess great minds think alike!
Now, I'm gathering info about cleaning and repainting all the "plastics" that have turned yellow (end caps, bathroom sink, countertop, etc.). So much info to filter through, it's gonna take some time to find someone who's successfully repainted the interior plastics. Take care!
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11-17-2009, 08:02 PM
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More than one rivet loose
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Originally Posted by beulahluster
My white roof seems really soft and flexible. It does not feel like it is aluminum underneath. Is this your experience too? I can buckle it in out out with just my hand. What's up with that? Gina
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It's aluminum. I was on mine this afternoon putting a cover on my AC unit.
It flexes stay near the rivet lines and off the end caps. You will be ok.
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11-17-2009, 10:53 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari FB SE
North/East
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Quote:
Originally Posted by subfan1
I need to reseal my vent on our 08, what type of sealant should I use?
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subfan1....Airstream advised me to use Sikaflex White 721 UV on the roof vents of my 2007 Safari
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11-18-2009, 06:34 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1985 34' Limited
1960 24' Tradewind
Summerville
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I have been researching a way to coat my roof white as well. I've got 5 gallons of a product called Ceramiflex on order. It is made by Sealoflex--they manufacture products to waterproof roofs, decks, ponds, etc. I have used them for years with good success. www.sealoflex.com
The Ceramiflex offers the advantage of having ceramic particles--makes for a highly reflective surface in white which will hopefully make the interior of the trailer even cooler than using white aluminum or a KoolSeal type product.
It will also stick to non ferrous metals with no preparation other than a good cleaning. Their other products work similarily--I have a water proofed deck on my house that I used Sealoflex on 5 years ago and it has held up well in full sun. Some was applied to raw aluminum flashing and it is still perfectly intact. No streaking either (do not want white streaks on sides of trailer, ever).
The coverage is heavy (50 square feet per gallon) and this will give some good insurance against water intrusion on the roof.
Anyone else have any experience with ceramic based products? Sound like a good way to go?
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11-18-2009, 07:53 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
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Me too!
Bill, I like the sounds of this material. Are we sure about no streaking...I could not find that ref on their web site. I am about to start my reseal/paint on the top of the 94 Sovereign. I am ready now....are you about to start?
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11-18-2009, 08:18 AM
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Power to the People !
1972 31' Sovereign
SAN DIMAS
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Join Date: May 2008
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Ceramiflex vs. Reflectowhite
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cantrell
I have been researching a way to coat my roof white as well. I've got 5 gallons of a product called Ceramiflex on order. It is made by Sealoflex--they manufacture products to waterproof roofs, decks, ponds, etc. I have used them for years with good success. www.sealoflex.com
The Ceramiflex offers the advantage of having ceramic particles--makes for a highly reflective surface in white which will hopefully make the interior of the trailer even cooler than using white aluminum or a KoolSeal type product.
It will also stick to non ferrous metals with no preparation other than a good cleaning. Their other products work similarily--I have a water proofed deck on my house that I used Sealoflex on 5 years ago and it has held up well in full sun. Some was applied to raw aluminum flashing and it is still perfectly intact. No streaking either (do not want white streaks on sides of trailer, ever).
The coverage is heavy (50 square feet per gallon) and this will give some good insurance against water intrusion on the roof.
Anyone else have any experience with ceramic based products? Sound like a good way to go?
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What made you decide to go with the Ceramiflex instead of the Reflectowhite? Are there added benefits with the Ceramiflex? I didn't see any solar absorptivity info on the info page for the Ceramiflex, only for the Reflectowhite?
Thanks, Mary
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11-18-2009, 09:16 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1985 34' Limited
1960 24' Tradewind
Summerville
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Ceramiflex
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Originally Posted by Melody Ranch
Bill, I like the sounds of this material. Are we sure about no streaking...I could not find that ref on their web site. I am about to start my reseal/paint on the top of the 94 Sovereign. I am ready now....are you about to start?
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Melody,
I am basing the lack of streaking on using the product on my own house. It is a large deck with copper flashing as a drip edge. No streaking on that copper in 5 years and it takes full sun and weather exposure. I guess if it were allowed to 'chalk out' it would streak. A maintenance coat at that point would solve the problem, though.
I am waiting on the product to arrive. Hope to have it done by next week and I will report back with how the application went.
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What made you decide to go with the Ceramiflex instead of the Reflectowhite? Are there added benefits with the Ceramiflex? I didn't see any solar absorptivity info on the info page for the Ceramiflex, only for the Reflectowhite?
Thanks, Mary
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Mary,
I didn't know the Reflectowhite was available. Using a Sealoflex book that is a few years old--must be a newer product. Both products have a reflectance of 86%. The Reflectowhite goes on at 15 mils dry and the Ceramiflex at 18 mils dry so you get a slightly thicker coating with the latter. Seems that they are similar products but I like the ceramic idea a little better.
As a side note, Hydrostop is a company very comparable to Sealoflex--making many of the same waterproofing products. Sealoflex is a smaller company and is based here in Charleston so I try to support the hometeam. Hydrostop may be more readily available in your area and they probably have similar reflective coatings in their product line. Might be worth a little research.
Thanks.
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11-18-2009, 10:52 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1962 28' Ambassador
1962 30' Sovereign
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Webster Groves
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cantrell
Melody,
I am basing the lack of streaking on using the product on my own house. It is a large deck with copper flashing as a drip edge. No streaking on that copper in 5 years and it takes full sun and weather exposure. I guess if it were allowed to 'chalk out' it would streak. A maintenance coat at that point would solve the problem, though.
I am waiting on the product to arrive. Hope to have it done by next week and I will report back with how the application went.
Mary,
I didn't know the Reflectowhite was available. Using a Sealoflex book that is a few years old--must be a newer product. Both products have a reflectance of 86%. The Reflectowhite goes on at 15 mils dry and the Ceramiflex at 18 mils dry so you get a slightly thicker coating with the latter. Seems that they are similar products but I like the ceramic idea a little better.
As a side note, Hydrostop is a company very comparable to Sealoflex--making many of the same waterproofing products. Sealoflex is a smaller company and is based here in Charleston so I try to support the hometeam. Hydrostop may be more readily available in your area and they probably have similar reflective coatings in their product line. Might be worth a little research.
Thanks.
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Need to do this to my 62 Ambassador ... how are you going to apply it?
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11-18-2009, 11:47 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1985 34' Limited
1960 24' Tradewind
Summerville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xbob2
Need to do this to my 62 Ambassador ... how are you going to apply it?
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Bob,
I was planning to mask off the one large panel on the roof bringing the product down to the big awning on the curbside and stopping where the end caps start. Plan to apply with a brush and roller. Their other products lay down nicely as long as you keep a wet edge and don't apply it in direct sun -- imagine this will do the same.
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11-18-2009, 01:13 PM
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4 Rivet Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cantrell
Bob,
I was planning to mask off the one large panel on the roof bringing the product down to the big awning on the curbside and stopping where the end caps start. Plan to apply with a brush and roller. Their other products lay down nicely as long as you keep a wet edge and don't apply it in direct sun -- imagine this will do the same.
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Can it be sprayed by air or airless?
Bob
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11-18-2009, 01:21 PM
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Bob,
We will practice on yours before attempting on mine
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11-18-2009, 06:13 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1985 34' Limited
1960 24' Tradewind
Summerville
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The spec sheet reads that it may be applied by brush, roller, or airless spray equipment. I've never sprayed any of their products--they are very thick.
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11-18-2009, 06:36 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1962 28' Ambassador
1962 30' Sovereign
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Webster Groves
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cantrell
The spec sheet reads that it may be applied by brush, roller, or airless spray equipment. I've never sprayed any of their products--they are very thick.
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??????? is this stuff really for airstreams? Inquiring minds want to know ...
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12-07-2009, 07:12 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1985 34' Limited
1960 24' Tradewind
Summerville
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Ceramiflex is on the roof
Well, got the Ceramiflex and applied it to the roof.
Taped the edges with painters tape and applied three coats with brush and roller. It laid down nicely--no brush strokes evident. Has a nice even texture.
Took the Airstream out this weekend but it was so cold there was no way to tell how much difference it makes to the interior temperature. Will have to wait until warmer temperatures to know that.
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12-07-2009, 07:23 PM
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1956 22' Flying Cloud
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What kind of preparation did you do?
Ken J.
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12-07-2009, 07:46 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1985 34' Limited
1960 24' Tradewind
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken J
What kind of preparation did you do?
Ken J.
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The instructions say to give it a good washing to make the surface free of dirt or grease. Used the same car wash detergent I usually use on the Airstream and then applied the product the next day.
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12-07-2009, 08:41 PM
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2008 27' International FB
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Bill,
Nice job, something I may consider. I just stripped the clear coat of just the top where there was wear. Maybe better than clearcoat or just wax.
Bill
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09-22-2010, 08:29 PM
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2005 22' Safari
Hyde Park Place
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cantrell
Well, got the Ceramiflex and applied it to the roof.
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Some time has passed. How is the Ceramiflex holding up? How did it perform during the summer?
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