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05-13-2004, 02:30 PM
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2 Rivet Member
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 47
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leaky rivets on roof?
Hi all,
I own a A/S Sovereign 1992 and have the problem that, when it rains, water drops inside at 2 spots, depending if the trailer is up front or up rear.
I assume that the entrance point of the water must be a rivet (or rivets) on the roof of the trailer, since I already made all other possible entrance spots (roof window, antenna, fridge exhaust, etc.) watertight by sealing them with silicone.
So there seem to be no other possibility where the rain could pass into the trailer except through a rivet.
My question: Is this a common known problem with Airstreams? If other have encountered a similar problem, what could I do? Thanks for your advice.
Hans
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05-13-2004, 03:20 PM
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Patriotic
1973 23' Safari
North of Boston
, Massachusetts
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 4,546
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Hi, Hans....
first of all, you shouldn't use silicone to seal an airstream; it won't adhere to the alluminum properly, will turn black and look nasty, and generally can't guarantee a good seal.
do a search on this forum for "vulkem". there are numerous threads on properly sealing stuff.
also: check your plumbing vent gaskets. This was a source of leaks on my trailer, but it was an elusive one to solve, as I only noticed the leaks after periods of heavy rain. (light rain..no problem). I finally figured it out, with the help of the members here. Anyway, what happens is that the rubber gasket that is supposed to fit tightly around the vent pipe, and then is held down tightly against the roof skin, dries out, and seperates from the pipe. there is a small drain hole in the cover, which can easily clog with debris. during periods of light rain, not too many rain drops actually find the gap and get inside the trailer...water that gets into the vent cover can drain out before it collects at all. but in heavy rain, it can't exit the little partially clogged drain hole, and water collects in this cover. the water level rises above the level where the gasket was supposed to be sealed to the pipe, (but is no longer because it is worn out, dried, cracked), it starts pouring inside, where it finds sponge-like insulation in the ceiling, and is wicked to "god only knows where".
my leak was at least 10 feet away from one of the vents...and "uphill", (higher up on the roof than the level of the vent pipe) as well. since I replaced the gaskets, no more leak.
this is talked about in other threads, as well...some even have pictures.
good luck!
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05-13-2004, 03:56 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 30' Argosy
Havelock
, where we park it
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,652
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Re leaks
Hello Hans.. Chuck is right about using the Vulkem. We had a leak in our Tradewind.. rented some scaffolding and went at the top with the Vulkem around the vents , tv antenna and everything large. Found a few rivets with pinholes on the edge.. put a small amount of Parbon on each rivet on the roof and also along the seams.. we have had some heavy rain and the trailer is dry as a bone.. This is one of the first things I would recommend doing to any trailer .Annie
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05-13-2004, 04:51 PM
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Rivet Master
1984 29' Sovereign
Savannah
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 3,478
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Greeting Hans~
Chuck is right on about both items~!!
I'll betcha the number one source for leaks is the bath vent pipe~It should be check once every 5 yrs min.~
I can tell you from my own experiences it's not fun to pick it out..
Stay away from silicone~!! (Oops, too late..)
Another spot that Annie touched upon (several good spots), one of which is the TV ant..Stands to reason, you're cranking it up and down alot and, water will find a path.
Good luck to you..
ciao
53FC
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05-13-2004, 04:54 PM
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Rivet Master
1965 20' Globetrotter
Currently Looking...
Houston
, Texas
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,002
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The PARBON mentioned above is an excellent choice. It comes in a reseable tube instead of a cartridge. Then you can carry it with you. Comes in white, gray and clear. Most RV stores carry it. Also wicks into seams well. I have been using the heck out of it lately trying to stop all my leaks.
The silicon messes up the surface, even if you think you get it off, making it tough to use the right sealants.
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04-26-2009, 05:04 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1960 24' Tradewind
KINGSLAND
, Georgia
Join Date: May 2008
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Contrary to popular opinion, I've had good luck using silicone around the vent pipes... I use the silicone that is labelled "aquarium" sealant.
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04-26-2009, 06:45 AM
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Rivet Monster
1975 31' Sovereign
1980 31' Excella II
Sprung Leak
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 7,172
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Quote:
Originally Posted by k4ter
Contrary to popular opinion, I've had good luck using silicone around the vent pipes... I use the silicone that is labelled "aquarium" sealant.
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It will hold for a while. But you will have to completely clean the old silicone off if you ever plan to reseal the area. Not an easy task.
Aaron
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04-26-2009, 07:06 AM
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Rivet Master
1973 27' Overlander
Tucson
, AZ
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,480
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One of the PO's of my AS used silicon all over the seams, vents, windows and rivets. I've spent about 40 hours so far picking silicon off the top of Ophelia. I have found quite a bit of corrosion underneath and there is obvious *etching* away at the aluminum. Funny thing - since my removing the stuff, no new leaks. Appears to have been put on for *preventative maintenance*. Regardless, it caused much damage to the aluminum. Just my experience thus far ....
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