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Old 07-05-2003, 08:42 AM   #15
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Compounding...

OK Shari and/or Rob - tell me again about this compounding. Too hot here right now for any type of polishing but when it ever cools down I want to have all the materials I need to do it right. I know Rob told me at the Rocky Mountain rally while we were on the Open House but of course I didn't right it down. Is that a DeWalt?

That scaffolding looks like the way to go. At least for my 6' 4" 280 pound frame.

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Old 07-05-2003, 09:54 AM   #16
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Unless your's has been polished before and within a few years it will need to be compounded first before being cyclo polished. I've been using a Porter-Cable variable speed compounder with the 3M wool velcro attached bonnets. Without compounding first you will not be able to get a true mirror finish by cycloing alone, somehow it conditions the aluminum getting you a better quality final finish. On my Overlander I started by stripping the clearcoat, then compounding with Nuvite "C", then G6, and finishing by cycloing with F7. It is plenty shiny for me but some people who want it mirror finish will move up to an even finer grade of Nuvite, such as "S". Check out the perfectpolish.com website, good pics and info there.

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Old 07-05-2003, 01:02 PM   #17
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Basically...compounding is more aggressive. It "cuts through" & removes the scratches, corrosion & imperfections...but it leaves swirls. The Cyclo-Polisher then polishes the swirls out.

We have a Milwaulkee variable speed "polisher" for compounding. We too are refering to the Perfect Polish website for advice, except we are using a different compounder...Rob felt more comfortable with this style than the drill-style.

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Old 07-05-2003, 11:16 PM   #18
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I too have wondered how this could be done. I used a 10 foot orchard ladder to work on my vents and it was a little scarry. It was hard to get in the center. I was wondering if a person could get some long studs and lay them down the length of the trailer and put some boards across them. Mine leaks bad if it rains hard and I have plenty of sealing to do myself. Surely someone has a better idea.

By the way what sealer are you using? I purchased a tube from Airstreamdreams.com and it's Vulcum #636. I see a story from Andy at Inland RV and it recomends something else? 631 I think?
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Old 07-06-2003, 11:11 AM   #19
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We use and sell the "ONLY" vulkem that that Airstream factory uses, which is "616."

Getting on the roof and walking on it, does not hurt it in any way.
Don't jump up and down and you won't hurt a thing.

The factory does it, dealers do it. However, wear rubber soles, and don't do it if the roof is wet, as it becomes very slippery.

CAUTION. DO NOT WALK on the segments, EVER!!!!!


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Old 10-17-2004, 07:32 PM   #20
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Sorry, I'm kinda new and need to be sure I understand fully before getting on the roof. I ordered Sikaflex and ParrBond from Andy and have already spent the good part of the week-end sealing around the windows and Vista windows. I need to seal around the A/C, roof vents, and plumbing vents. I read the posts below, and just want to clarify what a segment is. I surely don't want to walk on them since Andy is so emphatic about telling me not too. So what is a segment???
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Old 10-17-2004, 07:46 PM   #21
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they are talking about the curved sections on each end.

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Old 10-17-2004, 11:44 PM   #22
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We took the factory tour this summer & A/S pointed out the extra supports they use in the roof. With the advice already here, you can feel comfortable being on the roof.
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Old 10-19-2004, 04:22 PM   #23
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Thank you Gentlemen, it is much appreciated.
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Old 10-19-2004, 04:54 PM   #24
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I've always found it useful to go into a mystic trance and levitate to the top of the trailer to do maintenance there. You will need, of course, to be in the proper frame of mind with a mantra to chant. http://www.themystica.com/mystica/ar...evitation.html

However, I also recognize that approach may not be entirely useful for everyone. According to "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy", a similar situation can also be attained by jumping from something tall, and then merely forgetting to fall. It's apparently a fact that people fall from tall places simply because they think they will. If, according to the "Guide", you forget to fall, you won't which then allows you to basically float over the top of your Airstream to accomplish whatever maintenance you find necessary.

I hope you find this information useful.

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I've always found it useful to go into a mystic trance and levitate to the top of the trailer to do maintenance there. You will need, of course, to be in the proper frame of mind with a mantra to chant. http://www.themystica.com/mystica/ar...evitation.html

However, I also recognize that approach may not be entirely useful for everyone. According to "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy", a similar situation can also be attained by jumping from something tall, and then merely forgetting to fall. It's apparently a fact that people fall from tall places simply because they think they will. If, according to the "Guide", you forget to fall, you won't which then allows you to basically float over the top of your Airstream to accomplish whatever maintenance you find necessary.

I hope you find this information useful.

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Ok Roger, I know this is about a month old, late in reading it, but I have one question:

How do you stabilize yourself while you are levitating above the top? I find everytime I push down to polish I move the opposite direction in the same degree of movement. This has posed a quandry for me.........? Is there another mantra I need to know to keep me stabalized?

Just wondering!

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Staying in one place is easy if you follow instructions fully to develop the proper state of mind. It helps if you leave the TV off. Fighting the polisher is nothing if you can resist the pull of the mega-GVWR Earth. The hard part is to keep from spinning like crazy!

Forgetting to fall is another issue and should be similarly successful as the motive force of gravity is still downward. I've been trying to channel Douglas Adams in... ummm... Mystica Land but don't seem to have this on my cable. Can I have the TV on for this technique?

Roger must have the manual. Maybe he can scan the appropriate pages...
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Staying in one place is easy if you follow instructions fully to develop the proper state of mind. It helps if you leave the TV off. Fighting the polisher is nothing if you can resist the pull of the mega-GVWR Earth. The hard part is to keep from spinning like crazy!

Forgetting to fall is another issue and should be similarly successful as the motive force of gravity is still downward. I've been trying to channel Douglas Adams in... ummm... Mystica Land but don't seem to have this on my cable. Can I have the TV on for this technique?

Roger must have the manual. Maybe he can scan the appropriate pages...
Gee, thanks for the clear-as- mud explanation you have given. I have tried sitting crosslegged and repeating my mantra but to levitate crosslegged is not condusive to hovering on an even plane over my A/S. I seem to be bottom heavy and keep sinking to the top and I get in the way of the polisher.

Hope Roger can scan the appropriate pages...........I need to do this before I snowbird to southern CA.

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FWIW, I used my 8 foot step ladder and just swing over to the roof at a rib. Like Shari put it scooch around on all fours and butt. It is a little nerve racking but you get a feel for it pretty quick. I have been on my roof a couple of times and it is neat to be up there. But you need to understand what Andy said. "No jumping" and be very aware of where you are. It is a long fall to the ground.
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