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Old 10-02-2012, 05:45 PM   #1
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Good bye sky-light- Hello Hatch!

Firstly, I regret an earlier thread I wrote calling some non-AS tech. a bozo when describing the "slathering on of self leveling caulking". I've learned this is pretty normal.
So, to get started.
As part of my roof-rehab I replaced the Fantastic fan cover which was aged.
I purchased a new skylight cover at the same time but after reading on these forums they only last 4-6 years I decided to install a marine grade hatch for the following reasons:
1) I wanted to be able to get on the roof with out laying a ladder on exterior.
2) I thought that the skylight was a good way for a thief to get in as they're flimsy.
3) My better half keeps setting of the smoke detector when cooking so improved ventilation.
4) The new skylight came with an aluminium flange (up-grade) with pre-drilled holes that conflicted with the existing holes so I would have had to through bolt.


The hardest part of this job was making a 3/4" "spacer/adaptor in Marine Plywood. This was necessary to re-use the original interior plastic moulding.
It also adapted the hatch with radius corners with the original AS flange with square corners.
Other wise the hatch was perfectly suited to this ID/OD configuration.

Firstly I removed the old skylight and generally cleaned up the work area.
NOTE::!! This should be the only time you need to go on the roof until the final caulking. You can do everything with a step ladder on the inside.

Second, I fabricated the spacer/adaptor. (and sealed with Marine epoxy)
NOTE:::!! Triple check that it matches both the hatch ID/flange O.D.....I ended up having to make a second one.

Third: Bed and mount spacer/adaptor to AS flange and use pan head screws from under. Use 1/2 in. long screws.
NOTE:::!! you don't want the screws going all the way through the plywood.
NOTE 2::!! Check that the screws from under and those on the next step of installing the hatch don't run in to each other.

Fourth: Bed and install hatch screws.....same as above; use 1/2" wood screws.

And Fifth: Slather on the self leveling caulking like a Bozo. I found that it's best if you use a stiff bristle painters brush to "even it out"...still. I'm not proud of my caulking job. Oh yea: tape off the hatch and roof first.
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:53 PM   #2
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Sweet. And the sight of a ladder thru a hatch in an Airstream is very cool. Have any more pics up close?
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:55 PM   #3
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My A.S. custom ladder

I should mention about the ladder. I wanted one that would stow either in the rear storage compartment or under/behind couch and be light and simple. Could'ent find one.

For 3 bucks at a garage sale I got the ladder and cut off two rungs.
For 4 bucks at Goodwill I got two pairs of crutches (they always have crutches)
Fasteners cost about $13 and a can of aluminium spray paint 6.

Couple hours later I had an adjustable ladder that weighs nothing and measures 15"x64" with nice soft "feet" and I cut the arm-pit cushions to fit the top where it rests on the plastic moulding.

PS: I had to replace the wood in the channel of the AS channel flange (this wood is needed for screwing the moulding and sliding curtain. And as there was no insulation I used self adhesive 4" pipe insulation
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:58 PM   #4
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Old 10-02-2012, 06:37 PM   #5
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Great ladder. I wanted to ask - you read my mind.
That profile shot of the hatch looks superb.
It looks like your workspace ceiling is also creatively equipped.

Nominated for thread of the day.
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:30 PM   #6
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Very nice. You forgot to mention, always use stainless steel screws, since iron screws rust and cause leeks.
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Old 10-03-2012, 01:14 PM   #7
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Wazbro:
Yup, SST screws always!
Spazz:
My "work space" is home also (see pic). I got tired of all the dust and bug poo landing on the trailer (and heat in the winter going out the roof) so I searched for some material that was both light and fire proof to install after I re-built the 50yr. old truss's.
I found this material at an RV parts place that was going out of business.
It is meant to seal the bottom of stationary mobile homes (single/double wides). Rodents hate it and in the year it's been up not even a spider has attached to it....really amazing!
Very light and inexpensive solution....just got black tacks (special tape came with it) and up it went in two days for a 30x40' barn
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Old 10-03-2012, 01:31 PM   #8
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Wazbro:
Yup, SST screws always!
Spazz:
My "work space" is home also (see pic). I got tired of all the dust and bug poo landing on the trailer (and heat in the winter going out the roof) so I searched for some material that was both light and fire proof to install after I re-built the 50yr. old truss's.
I found this material at an RV parts place that was going out of business.
It is meant to seal the bottom of stationary mobile homes (single/double wides). Rodents hate it and in the year it's been up not even a spider has attached to it....really amazing!
Very light and inexpensive solution....just got black tacks (special tape came with it) and up it went in two days for a 30x40' barn
Wow Del!! You are amazing!!! A man after my own heart!!! I consider myself a Mz McGuyver so I love what you did and how you did it!! So creative!!! Do you live in that space where you store your trailer? I recently retired, sold my house and am traveling & living full time in my Bambi. I've been looking for a lot or place with just a garage so I can create my "home" there. My thought is to build/rennovate a 2 car garage or building into a place to store my Bambi, create a workshop and a loft apartment to live in. Looks like I came to the right place at the right time! I would love to chat with you more (if you wouldn't mind). My email address is [mod edit - spambot prevention]. Thanks so much!!! Ciao! Cari
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Old 10-03-2012, 02:31 PM   #9
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Hi Cari:
Sent you a letter on your email.
Refuse to have internet in the trailer (at library now, which I pay $30/year for in taxes, so I get my money's worth!!)
So I don't always reply "promptly"
Arivvederci ciao
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Hi Cari:
Sent you a letter on your email.
Refuse to have internet in the trailer (at library now, which I pay $30/year for in taxes, so I get my money's worth!!)
So I don't always reply "promptly"
Arivvederci ciao
Hey thanks Del. I'll check it out. Talk to ya later!
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Del,

Great job. I like people who challenge the usual and come up with unique and practical solutions.

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Old 10-04-2012, 06:23 AM   #12
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Hey Del, great work! I've flagged this thread for future reference. Can you tell us what the manufacturer of your hatch is, the size, and where you purchased it? I also like your storage barn, and am looking for something similar myself.

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Del, thanks for the pics and info. We may be going down the same road - the "trailer within a garage" type of home base. Glad to see others are doing it. Keep up the good work. Is that material a vapor barrier plastic?

Philip, it looks to me like a Bomar boat hatch.
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Thumbs up Nice work

Del,

That looks great. Are you available for adoption. We can give three squares a day and all the beer you can drink when you're not working.

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