Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 10-31-2004, 08:23 PM   #1
1 Rivet Member
 
1969 23' Safari
Charlotte , North Carolina
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 8
Question Bumper Separating from Shell--Help!

We own a 1969 Safari Twin. The rear bumber is separating from the shell. Tried to fix it but it didn't work. We think the problem arose when the previous owner put in a too-thick bathroom floor. Any ideas on how to repair? Any help is much appreciated.
__________________

__________________
Laure&Chuck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2004, 09:33 PM   #2
The Sh*tt*r's Full!
 
dbtolman's Avatar
 
1970 27' Overlander
lewisville , Texas
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 96
It's called Frame Separation, and it needs to be taken care of quickly. There's plenty of threads related to it. The fix isn't for the faint of heart, but with the help of this group I think damn near ANY Airstream can be made usefull again.
__________________

__________________
dbtolman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2004, 09:35 PM   #3
Rivet Master
 
Over59's Avatar
 
1959 26' Overlander
Putnam , Connecticut
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 3,064
Images: 37
It would be best if you could post some pictures so people know for sure what's happening. That way you don't get a solution for a problem you don't have. But it does sound like separation.
__________________
Over59 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2004, 10:31 AM   #4
Rivet Master
 
Ken J's Avatar
 
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango , Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 1975 25' Tradewind
Posts: 3,363
Images: 14
Hmmm to think bathroom floor in itself would not cause rear seperation. My guess is the previous owner did not bolt the shell to the floor when it was replaced.

Ken
__________________
1956 Flying Cloud
Founder :
Four Corners Unit
Albuquerque National Balloon Fiesta
Rally
Vintage Trailer Academy - Formerly the original
restoration rally
Ken J is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2004, 10:42 AM   #5
Aluminut
 
Silvertwinkie's Avatar
 
2004 25' Safari
. , Illinois
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,334
jpairstream here on the forum did the fix to his 70s coach and posted pics of the process. Unfort, when I went to look at the photo albums, the server couldn't find any of them. I would send a PM to jpairstream to see if he can email you the pics and instructions he posted. It is an involved process which I believe included cutting into the outer skins.

A heavy floor could add/cause frame seperation, depending on what kind of floor was installed. For example, ceramic or marble would add significant weight to the rear end and as the unit ages, the stress/flexing could eventually break the mount bolts.
__________________
Silvertwinkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2004, 11:38 AM   #6
Site Team
 
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 6,940
Images: 59
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken J
Hmmm to think bathroom floor in itself would not cause rear seperation. My guess is the previous owner did not bolt the shell to the floor when it was replaced.

Ken
Ken,

Very likely, especially if the original floor was rotted out. It's possible the PO laid a new floor over the old and didn't bother to run it under the floor channel.
__________________
markdoane is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2004, 11:50 AM   #7
Rivet Master
 
Ken J's Avatar
 
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango , Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 1975 25' Tradewind
Posts: 3,363
Images: 14
Don

I agree - thats why I thought that thicker floor in itself would not cause rear end seperation. Or I've seen when floor are replace the interior panels are not taken out, the old floor is taken out, new floor shoved in - and - not bolted down. If I were going to fix it, I would not cut the exterior skin, I would remove the interior and interior skin and put new floor and new bolts in . Not that hard of a repair really, just time consuming.

Ken
__________________
1956 Flying Cloud
Founder :
Four Corners Unit
Albuquerque National Balloon Fiesta
Rally
Vintage Trailer Academy - Formerly the original
restoration rally
Ken J is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2004, 08:17 PM   #8
1 Rivet Member
 
1969 23' Safari
Charlotte , North Carolina
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 8
Pictures of Separation

Here are a couple of photos showing the separation.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Bumper1.jpg
Views:	251
Size:	38.8 KB
ID:	9361   Click image for larger version

Name:	Bumper2.jpg
Views:	248
Size:	34.0 KB
ID:	9362  

__________________
Laure&Chuck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2004, 01:58 AM   #9
Rivet Master
 
53flyingcloud's Avatar
 
1984 29' Sovereign
Savannah , Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 3,458
Images: 17
Blog Entries: 1
Exclamation Without a doubt

You may have more going on there than just rot'd floor issues..
I'd suspect a frame issue as well judging from your pictures..
Have you contacted anyone to examine your unit yet for a professional opinion as to the extent of repairs?
ciao
53FC
__________________
WBCCI 5292 AIR 807
NEU #64
New England Unit
53flyingcloud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2004, 06:59 AM   #10
AND MAC TOO
 
Jalina's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 38
Images: 36
If you are looking at a quick fix you might be able to do what we did.
Take a look at our pic's on how we replaced just the wood under the rear. My hubby went to an RV place in Okla City and this is how he told him to fix it. He said that that is how he fixes all the A/S that come in his shop that just has the rear problem. The bolts that hold the channel together was rusted off and part of the channel was broken. If you any questions just pm us and we can tell you how we did it.
The only rotten spots we had was at the rear. Fixed it. Now we have a spot in front of the front door. Some time or another we will be replacing whole floor.
__________________
Mac&Jalina
Jalina is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2004, 10:15 AM   #11
Rivet Master
 
Ken J's Avatar
 
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango , Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 1975 25' Tradewind
Posts: 3,363
Images: 14
Yup I would say that has seperated from the frame - as mentioned above is should be addressed and can be done taking the interior panels off or cutting a section out of the rear as Jalina suggests

Ken
__________________
1956 Flying Cloud
Founder :
Four Corners Unit
Albuquerque National Balloon Fiesta
Rally
Vintage Trailer Academy - Formerly the original
restoration rally
Ken J is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2004, 03:25 PM   #12
1 Rivet Member
 
1969 23' Safari
Charlotte , North Carolina
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 8
Thanks for all the great info. I found an Airstream Dealer about an hour from us; they do this kind of repair all the time, according to the guy I talked to. I've sent him photos and now need to get a cost estimate and to figure out how to get the camper to him. My husband is afraid to tow it too far in its current condition. We'll see....
__________________

__________________
Laure&Chuck is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
? about the hinged rear bumper cover Bryanhu Bumpers & Bumper Storage 4 04-21-2017 09:25 PM
Shell Off vs Shell On Summary mbatm01 Repairing/Replacing Floor &/or Frame 82 01-09-2006 06:46 PM
Rear bumper storage latch mystery Shelby Copeland Bumpers & Bumper Storage 3 12-02-2003 11:49 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:10 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.