Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 10-02-2006, 10:47 AM   #15
Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
 
Inland RV Center, In's Avatar
 
Corona , California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,499
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinsel Loaf
I solved the bottoming out quite by accident. I installed air shocks on my E350 extended van and use them to raise and lower both the rear of the van and the Airstream. When I see a bottom scrape problem coming I inflate the rear shocks to the max and slowly move over the scrape zone of the rear of the van so it won't scrape than let all the air out of the shocks so the rear of the Airstream is higher off the ground so it won't scrape. Going slow and inflating and deflating timing the shocks is important than remembering to put the air back in the shocks at the right pressure for my unit once on level ground. It really works. Andy from inland told me that air shocks were a bad idea "an accident waiting to happen". Well after thousands and thousands of miles towing I think the air shocks saved us from many close calls not to mention avoiding bottoming out problems.

The improper use of "air shocks" were a major factor in two thirds ofall loss of control accidents, as Caravanner Insurance company learned.

Any air pressure above minimum, will progressively reduce the stress on the "load equalizing bars." Accordingly then, why noy eliminate the bars all together and let the air shocks do the work?

The answer we all know, is that you "must" use load equalizing bars, and they must be properly rated and properly installed.

Caravanner Insurance had thousands of files to document that statement, especially what happens when someone has chosen to do otherwise.

Any given, far out example or opinion, does not out weight thousands of files of data, that very clearly demonstrated the need for load equalizing hitches, sway controls and proper ratings and installations.

Andy
__________________

__________________
Inland RV Center, In is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2006, 06:44 PM   #16
Rivet Master
 
SilverRanger's Avatar
 
2005 19' Safari
1968 24' Tradewind
Rural , Delaware
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,475
Quote:
Originally Posted by overlander63
I went to the lumber yard today, and bought a 2x10, cut it in half, and use that to bridge the low spot in our driveway. Our '63 has no skid plates, and I think a $7 piece of wood is cheaper than replacing several aluminum panels.
Good point, Terry. I used a 2x10, that I had in the truck for leveling up the AS, to help me get out of a parking lot with a steep dip in downtown Miami.
__________________

__________________
SilverRanger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2006, 07:15 PM   #17
2 Rivet Member
 
2017 30' Flying Cloud
Newtown , Connecticut
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 79
I can see skid plates working on gravel or dirt just fine. But on blacktop or cement they will either ride up or dig in.In Which case the rear quarter panels most likely will be damage.
Eric
__________________
Eric 28
Eric 28 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2006, 11:38 PM   #18
Rivet Master
 
Fyrzowt's Avatar
 
2000 25' Safari
West of Fort Worth , Texas
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 6,697
Images: 8
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric 28
I can see skid plates working on gravel or dirt just fine. But on blacktop or cement they will either ride up or dig in.In Which case the rear quarter panels most likely will be damage.
Eric
Eric I agree. But even more important reason for rollers in my mind, is when you are forced for what ever reason, to make a turn as you enter/exit a driveway or dip. It is at that time that you are not only applying upward force on the rear of the trailer, but also lateral forces as the tail swings during the turn.
Some would say thay you need to plan your route, etc. That's fine until forced out of your planned route by another vehicle, etc. I'm always very aware of dips/bumps but have still dragged the tail a few times. It happens.
Dave
__________________
Fyrzowt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2006, 05:45 AM   #19
Retired Moderator
 
john hd's Avatar
 
1992 29' Excella
madison , Wisconsin
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 4,644
Images: 40
i have dragged my skid plates a number of times in forward and reverse. mostly in my driveway. i have found that having the tanks empty and removing my bars prevent this.

when they get to the point of needing replacement i will just cut them off and weld on new ones. all they are is a section of "c" channel. consumable part in my book.

john
__________________
you call them ferrets, i call them weasels.
john hd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2006, 05:53 PM   #20
3 Rivet Member
 
2007 27' Safari FB SE
McKinney , Texas
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 109
John,

If that is your drive in the background it looks similar to mine. That is why I am waiting to get the trailer home to check it all out and take some measurements.

Thanks
__________________
Krazyjohnny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2006, 06:26 PM   #21
Retired Moderator
 
john hd's Avatar
 
1992 29' Excella
madison , Wisconsin
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 4,644
Images: 40
krazy

nope that is the view from across the street from my house, my driveway is similar except that it is gravel between the houses.

before you go get a set of rollers think about getting a plain hitch for your tow vehicle with a 2 5/16 ball on it. if you get one with an inch or two of extra drop in it you may be able to get your trailer out of the driveway with it and then change to your "over the road hitch".

i picked one up from our local farm store for about 30 bucks and use it for parking the trailer. when i get out to the street i switch to my reese and put on the bars.

obviously having as little weight in the trailer as possible when you go out the drive helps too!

john
__________________
you call them ferrets, i call them weasels.
john hd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2006, 08:48 PM   #22
3 Rivet Member
 
2007 27' Safari FB SE
McKinney , Texas
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 109
Is it absolutely necessary to use a weight distribution hitch for Airstreams? I have one so it is no big deal. What height is the ball at from the ground on your hitch.
__________________
Krazyjohnny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2006, 08:53 PM   #23
Retired Moderator
 
john hd's Avatar
 
1992 29' Excella
madison , Wisconsin
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 4,644
Images: 40
Quote:
Is it absolutely necessary to use a weight distribution hitch for Airstreams?
no, but it is wise to do so. with the added weight transfeered to the front axle on your tow vehicle it is much more pleasant and safe to drive.

about 20 inches.

john
__________________
you call them ferrets, i call them weasels.
john hd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2006, 02:09 PM   #24
3 Rivet Member
 
2007 27' Safari FB SE
McKinney , Texas
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 109
Trailer makes it up and down the drive with now problems so I will not install any rollers. The Weight distribution hitch makes the truck ride much better. The trailer rides fine without it but with it there is a significant difference.
__________________
Krazyjohnny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2006, 03:53 PM   #25
4 Rivet Member
 
1972 21' Globetrotter
nc , North Carolina
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 253
Images: 2
krazyjohnny, you will find in your travels there are times that your trailer will drag. all driveways are not the same, some up some down.
would you rather drag your trailers tail or roll it nice and easy. camping world
sales them in a few different sizes. and they will not harm your trailer.
__________________
rock60 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2006, 04:18 PM   #26
Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
 
Inland RV Center, In's Avatar
 
Corona , California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,499
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by rock60
krazyjohnny, you will find in your travels there are times that your trailer will drag. all driveways are not the same, some up some down.
would you rather drag your trailers tail or roll it nice and easy. camping world
sales them in a few different sizes. and they will not harm your trailer.
Use rollers and you are guaranteed to ruin the two rear quarter panels, like hundreds of people already have.

The trailer has built in skid plates.

Using rollers is an absolute no no.

Andy
__________________
Inland RV Center, In is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2006, 07:45 PM   #27
Rivet Master
 
Silverhobby's Avatar
 
1967 26' Overlander
1968 30' Sovereign
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Mosheim , Tennessee
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,301
Send a message via Yahoo to Silverhobby
No Skid Rollers for ME

Rock60, I can show you a severely damaged AVION trailer with rear end separation that used to have skid wheels on it. Seldom do you see Avions with this separation, but when the frame is improperly stressed and not sealed properly, anything can and will happen.
__________________
Kevin with Baity the Lab/Pointer
//------AIR # 7303------\\
WBCCI 17109
visit my restoration blog at:
Silverhobby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2006, 08:41 PM   #28
Rivet Master
 
TIMEMACHINE's Avatar
 
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Huntington Beach , California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,293
Images: 2
Andy is right

By using rollers attached to the rear of yor AS, you are "artificially" supporting the rear while damaging the the structural integrity of the panels. It is similar to a runner using drugs to increase performance, he may go faster, but there will be a physical price to pay.

John
__________________

__________________
TIMEMACHINE is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Older Argosy MH Bumper Needed Rik General Motorhome Topics 1 04-18-2004 10:54 PM
what kind of bumper carrier is that ? femuse Bumpers & Bumper Storage 2 05-03-2003 11:09 AM
Rear Bumper AccessMaster General Motorhome Topics 1 04-17-2003 07:43 PM
Where to seal rear bumper? 65trotter Leaks - Weatherstrips, Gaskets, Caulks & Sealants 0 02-17-2003 03:32 PM
Correct color of bumper and tongue gmc70 Clearcoat, Exterior Paint & Trim 2 06-24-2002 07:19 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:26 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.