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Old 11-14-2010, 08:29 PM   #1
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Hole in sheet metal banana wrap area

We just purchased an Airstream and it has a few issues. Please see the photos. The photos are of a hole or puncture directly next to the front door. I don't know what caused it, I removed the plastic banana wrap inspected the space but cannot determine the cause of such a hole. Have any of you experienced this problem, any guesses? I'll have to find a source for the metal and thought I would recover the space. However, if there is a bigger issue than just to repair it I am hoping that one of your guys will know what I should be aware of. On another area of this forum I am asking the best method to repair a tweeked step... the cause of both of these problems may be related.
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Old 11-14-2010, 08:45 PM   #2
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The way the metal is torn it sure looks like an impact either from a flying rock or slow speed impact with a stationary object like a parking curb. I would just replace the section and not worry about looking for a bigger issue. You will find lots more bigger issues once you dig in to it.
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it would appear all of these issues are related...

bent steps, hole right over the stab jack, crushed gas line under the tongue and the manual crank out 4 use ...

and so on.

perhaps the trailer was dragged, or fell off the tongue jack or ball...

maybe bears tried to get inside?



that hole might be a result of the crank being pushed UP into the wrap

and the previous owner using a can opener to extract it.

why not post a few full body shots of this trailer...

so far it appears to be a messed up, beat up or badly cared 4 unit.

a patch/sealant and a few rivets and the hole is gone.

while replacing the steps is the best fix, u may need that cash for more important parts.

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Old 11-14-2010, 09:41 PM   #4
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We just purchased an Airstream and it has a few issues. Please see the photos. The photos are of a hole or puncture directly next to the front door. I don't know what caused it, I removed the plastic banana wrap inspected the space but cannot determine the cause of such a hole. Have any of you experienced this problem, any guesses? I'll have to find a source for the metal and thought I would recover the space. However, if there is a bigger issue than just to repair it I am hoping that one of your guys will know what I should be aware of. On another area of this forum I am asking the best method to repair a tweeked step... the cause of both of these problems may be related.
What year and length Airstream.

That info helps answer questions you have or may have.

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Old 11-15-2010, 12:17 AM   #5
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Old 11-15-2010, 12:41 AM   #6
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Hi, on the stabilizer, mine has four bolts on the outside mount and only one bolt on the inside. I had one inside bolt that fell out and another one that broke off. I wonder if it was caused by one of the inside bolts falling out or broken like mine did, except that on your's, the jack bolt swung up into the body, making a puncture. [only a guess] Look and see it this stabilizer has been replaced or new bolts installed on it.
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Old 11-15-2010, 08:26 AM   #7
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ah much better pictures thanks!,

she looks good now.

the belly wrap material, exact paint, a new set of steps...

and it would be looking good as new.

(is that a crease in the rear/streetside or just a reflection?)

check around the tongue jack, stab jacks and A frame/belly junction...

for signs of trauma, loose nuts/bolts and sealant breaks.

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Old 11-15-2010, 08:47 AM   #9
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Could both of these injuries have been caused by the stabilizer falling to the pavement while underway and getting all jammed up around the step?

Do you see any evidence of the jack being scraped up, bent and repaired, or replaced?
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Old 11-15-2010, 10:55 AM   #10
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Stabilizer

dznf0g: As soon as it gets light I'll check on condition of stabilizer closer. However, I cleaned some pebbles and dirt out of the stabilizer and sprayed some lubricant on the screw nut, it seemed to work well but I really didn't get under and check it out thoroughly with previous damage or replacement in mind.



2airishuman: let me ask about belly wrap material and paint. Is the material a heat treated type of paint or is this just metal sheeting painted? Where can a person get this color and sheeting...is it common? Does the sheeting come pre-painted?

Other simple observations:

The tow tongue jack needs to be painted, it has been pocked marked by road gravel. Do u know the paint for that color?

The tailights have some corrosion around the edges, will this lead to damage of the skin AS skin?

Are the steps custom or standard RV steps? I checked out some steps from AS and they were aluminum appearing and expensive for something that is likely to get banged again.

One of the yellow clearnance lights had water in it, is there a permanent fix for this?

Many thx, for yr responses
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every one of your questions has been addressed here...

and most addressed many times.

the archives and the search tool are your friends, learn to use them.

the belly wrap can be had PRE painted and bent, but it's not anything special really.

the aluminum can be ordered by any dealer,

the exact color paint (for all the trim) is available from the a/s parts store online.

many folks find 'almost' similar colors at the hardware store, but the stuff a/s sells is very good.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f476...tml#post897322

the 'milled aluminum/expensive steps' are used on other models...

the stamped steel steps on your unit are different.

in 1 of your other threads i linked the PARTS LIBRARY for your model...

within that free/pdf are the exact steps, including the part #.

a/s will not typically sell parts directly to customers, unless they are IN jackson center.

typically we must go through a dealer to get these bits,

if you are in alaska they might make an exception, florida has many dealer options.

there are long threads on shell/skin/filiform corrosion,

and specific threads on corrosion (fixing it) on the tail light bezels, wheels and trim...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f447...les-55217.html

the 'leaky marker lights' is a common theme too,

and fixes (which may/not work) are detailed in several threads...

as you explore the stream, explore the archives here.

the resources are at yer finger tips.
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post any way u like...

but one other approach that seems to work well for a lotta folks

is to start and maintain one long thread on your trailer...

over time u will collect a subscribed readership that will be very helpful for all the issues encountered.

it also saves repeating the background details and connecting the dots.

there are subforums and lots of details posted for virtually every rivet, appliance, squeak and leak, so explore.

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Old 11-15-2010, 12:34 PM   #12
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2airishuman, many thx for yr links, comments and recommendations, well taken. The problem I have w/searching this forum is the scope of information available, distilling its relevancy, and time. I start out w/one topic/subject in mind, dig into the search and, about two hours later, find myself way over in left field learning about a completely different subject....albeit very interesting, if not irrelevant to my issues.

Just yesterday I received some storm warnings from "the lady who lets me live with her" about not staying on topic and spending way too much time delving into the greater world of AS. There is so much talent, skill and creativeness on the site that a newbie guy can find much to study and learn about....although she described it as blowing off a perfectly beautiful afternoon.

Here's a question: As you suggested, where on the site can I learn about starting a long thread about out our AS?

Again, thank you for yr help.
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focus is often a problem it's a giant mass of info here.

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...Here's a question: As you suggested, where on the site can I learn about starting a long thread about out our AS?...
go the the section for your specific make/model year...

this looks like the home for 2007 safariz...

2007 Safari - Airstream Forums

and simply start a NEW thread, give it a catchy name.

post pics, questions, fixes, solutions, more broken bits and so on....

in a few days u have a personal home thread and followers.

folks luv pix and help is often enhanced by the visuals.

when you find other thread that are useful add a LINK 2 those threads in yer home thread ...

and visa-versa.

here are 3 examples that aren't full monty restoration threads, but owner stories that work.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f396...-ls-61361.html

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f205...num-54749.html

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f396...ast-29471.html

there are no rulez about this,

only observations about what makes for a successful long term string of interconnected posts.

some folks start 100s of threads on one trailer (or one issue) and live with that chaos too...



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We just purchased an Airstream and it has a few issues. Please see the photos. The photos are of a hole or puncture directly next to the front door. I don't know what caused it, I removed the plastic banana wrap inspected the space but cannot determine the cause of such a hole. Have any of you experienced this problem, any guesses? I'll have to find a source for the metal and thought I would recover the space. However, if there is a bigger issue than just to repair it I am hoping that one of your guys will know what I should be aware of. On another area of this forum I am asking the best method to repair a tweeked step... the cause of both of these problems may be related.

My theory is that someone was using the provided wrench or more likely an electric drill to raise or lower the stabilizing pad. The wrench or drill slipped off the shaft and they punctured the skin with it. It may have been an alcohol assisted tool.

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