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Old 09-20-2009, 08:04 AM   #15
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Bob are you recommending not to insulate,
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Old 09-20-2009, 11:54 AM   #16
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Correct, but that depends what you're doing if anything with the interior flooring.

If you are not upgrading the interior floor you have two choices

1 do nothing wide open if you're not doing any cold weather camping that may be fine.

2. use perhaps Prodex it has been used by others a lot.

If you're redoing the interior floor like with pergo or similar, do nothing under put a layer of Prodex down then the pergo etc.

This will keep your frame and floor from rusting and rotting away with the damp/wet pink stuff.
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Old 09-20-2009, 04:35 PM   #17
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Sheet foam insulation will solve both the insulation issue and the wet pink stuff issue. Polyurethane foam is not hospitable for rodents as well. It's easy to cut and install, and won't hold water.
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Old 09-20-2009, 05:40 PM   #18
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good idea thanks
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Old 09-20-2009, 05:42 PM   #19
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The issue with that is the edges have sealing against air leaking and diminishing the its R value.

There have been reports that the movement and vibration will cause crumbling.
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Thanks LI pets, I don't want to have to open her up again
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I've only heard of crumbling issues with spray-foam insulation.
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Old 09-21-2009, 07:39 PM   #22
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When using non-permeable insulation under the floor there's one thing to consider when instaling. Traping water above the insulation layer from leaks, condinsation, ect. If the insulation is to well sealed or has sags the water can't get out.
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Old 09-24-2009, 06:30 PM   #23
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Belly Pan Drama...

Richard - here are some pictures of my belly pan drop. Yes, I didn't listen to the forum's to check this stuff out before I bought it (luckily I haven't paid yet!). Just did this last week and needless to say I think the critters had a "field day" in my airstream (it was sitting in a field for 5 years). I am now doing a complete gut - as the floorboards are so stained with rat pee that it is unbearable...(I found this out after pulling up the leopard skin carpet - no kidding). Anyhoo... hope this makes you feel good! John
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John don't get discouraged, we are all here for you.
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Old 09-25-2009, 02:42 PM   #25
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John, the bottom of mine was the same - all the older AS that have been setting around will have this nasty mess. This stuff is the worst mess I have ever seen except for the very large bugs/roaches. About two days after we started the tear out of the appliances, cabinets, etc. I used about 9 of the bug bomb cans over the next week. Every night we set off a bomb. I had a helper back in those days and he was kind enough to be the first to arrive in the mornings to clean up the bug mess. Now, that was nasty. 10 months later I am living/using my '68 AS. Everything is now clean, new appliances, old cabinets that have been cleaned, sanded and restained. Keep up your spirits. In a few months this nightmare will have passed . . . you will have others to worry about. It is worth it.
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ever tried ospho for rust

Our company built a fense out of square tubing needles to say rust came out early. we put ospho on it and it worked really great
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Old 09-27-2009, 03:01 PM   #27
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OMG!!! I am fighting the back belly pan and it's winning

There has to be a secret to getting that thing off. I have run into the strangest looking rivets, thank God for my dremel. Is there a rivet under the axel brackets. Why in the world did they make it so long. I need some pointers.
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I had the same problem with that back piece of the belly pan. It's very long. There were no fasteners around the axles, but it was jammed in there "real good". Just took a lot of pulling and tugging to finally get it outta there. Of course, all that said, some P.O. may have modified a few things over the years.

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