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07-31-2015, 07:24 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2015 28' Flying Cloud
Melbourne Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 43
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Step Replacement
I had to replace the steps on 25' Flying Cloud.
Did some research and the replacement steps were purchased from Campers World for $81 plus $10 shipping. Campers World part number is 74960.
The manufacturer is Lippert Components and their part number is 341500.
This step is exactly the same as OEM steps from Air Stream. Bolt holes match and installation took 15 minutes. Remove 4 bolts and the steps come off.
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07-31-2015, 07:34 PM
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Site Team
2009 25' FB International
2018 27' Globetrotter
Tavares
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,654
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingsmen 33
I had to replace the steps on 25' Flying Cloud.
Did some research and the replacement steps were purchased from Campers World for $81 plus $10 shipping. Campers World part number is 74960.
The manufacturer is Lippert Components and their part number is 341500.
This step is exactly the same as OEM steps from Air Stream. Bolt holes match and installation took 15 minutes. Remove 4 bolts and the steps come off.
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Why did the steps need to be replaced? Just curious.
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07-31-2015, 08:22 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2023 25' Globetrotter
Manheim
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hans627
Why did the steps need to be replaced? Just curious.
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One more cheeseburger and mine will need to be replaced.
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08-01-2015, 10:00 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2015 28' Flying Cloud
Melbourne Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 43
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I damaged the step. Left it down when I pulled forward, pushed against return pipe on my pool filter, and it bent about 5 degrees. Impossible to bend it back to original shape.
Good news is that the PVC pipe did not break..
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08-01-2015, 10:11 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1973 31' Excella 500
Marysville
, Washington
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 219
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The replacement step appears to be metal. Was your original step metal or aluminum?
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08-02-2015, 05:46 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2015 28' Flying Cloud
Melbourne Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 43
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Original steps are painted steel. Replacement step is the exact OEM step and is steel.
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08-02-2015, 08:04 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,801
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Dear King... you might find that you and a somewhat robust hammer you CAN bend the steps back in line after removing them from the Airstream.
On my old one, I did nearly the same thing, except it was with a big rock. I used a 32 oz. framing hammer with a piece of thin plywood to protect the surfaces I "massaged" back in to alignment.
You'd have a spare for next time! Ouch!
Paula
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08-02-2015, 09:00 AM
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 2,190
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Kingsman…thumbs up to you for your preemptive advice.
Very cool heads up….gold star and all that good stuff.
But, I have an 1973 Argosy 20'…..and I don't even know if my trailer had steps. ( if anyone could please answer that for me )
I'm thinking about getting steps , but not sure about it. I have repaired many steps on friends SOBs. Many of the failures were due to weak attachments, weak fasteners, and the fact that big guys are plopping down on an assembly that has a mechanical advantage that makes hardware and supports " want" to break. I see lots of folks bracing up and using make shift supports, wood blocks, and even bottle jacks on their steps. Perhaps they are trying to prevent another failure. I kinda think it's easier to just use my portable steps.
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08-02-2015, 09:55 AM
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Rivet Master
2013 25' FB Flying Cloud
2011 23' FB Flying Cloud
Branson
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 734
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Foiled Again
Dear King... you might find that you and a somewhat robust hammer you CAN bend the steps back in line after removing them from the Airstream.
On my old one, I did nearly the same thing, except it was with a big rock. I used a 32 oz. framing hammer with a piece of thin plywood to protect the surfaces I "massaged" back in to alignment.
You'd have a spare for next time! Ouch!
Paula
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A come-along does a pretty good job, too.
I know. Found it out on my old 23FB.
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08-04-2015, 09:48 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1973 31' Excella 500
Marysville
, Washington
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 219
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My steps are aluminum. I see that Inland RV has both aluminum replacement steps and parts for the aluminum. I may just repair mine with his parts.
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08-04-2015, 01:10 PM
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Rivet Master
1999 28' Excella
New Orleans
, Louisiana
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 883
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My AS is the one that fought the curb and the curb won on Aluminum steps. When this happened I wrote on the forums. Everyone kinda advised us to go steel since we are full-timers. That has turned out to be great for us.
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08-05-2015, 03:25 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1973 31' Excella 500
Marysville
, Washington
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 219
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badkat,
Are the Aluminum and steel steps interchangeable? In other words, are they the same dimensions and bolt pattern, no modification required?
Thanks,
John
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03-01-2016, 01:21 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 31' Classic
Garner,
, North Carolina
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,031
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what year 25' flying cloud?? your info show a 2015 28ft flying cloud..
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingsmen 33
I had to replace the steps on 25' Flying Cloud.
Did some research and the replacement steps were purchased from Campers World for $81 plus $10 shipping. Campers World part number is 74960.
The manufacturer is Lippert Components and their part number is 341500.
This step is exactly the same as OEM steps from Air Stream. Bolt holes match and installation took 15 minutes. Remove 4 bolts and the steps come off.
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03-01-2016, 02:03 PM
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Full Time Adventurer
2007 27' International CCD FB
Nomadic
, USA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,748
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They're all the same except for the Classic's which had different steps.
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03-02-2016, 04:34 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 31' Classic
Garner,
, North Carolina
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,031
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different how.. wider, longer, 3 steps etc.. the 2005 classic 31 we are buying has a broken bottom of two steps and was looking at the camping world replacement steps. they seem to be a bit more able to handle the stress of everyday usage.
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Originally Posted by BoldAdventure
They're all the same except for the Classic's which had different steps.
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2-24-16 got a 2005 Classic 31D 460 watts solar, lithium 230 AH, 16" LT's, pulled by:
2003 F-250 SD, CC, 7.3L PowerStroke
WBCCI#1691, Piedmont Airstream Club, Unit #161, Region #3
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03-02-2016, 05:13 PM
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Full Time Adventurer
2007 27' International CCD FB
Nomadic
, USA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,748
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Just quoting something I read earlier. And observation. But the mounting holes are most likely all the same. Probably industry standard.
Quote:
Originally Posted by idroba
This is a copy from a Forum post in the past few months. I kept it in my file, sorry I can't give proper credit to the original author.
"I had to replace the steps on 25' Flying Cloud.
Did some research and the replacement steps were purchased from Campers World for $81 plus $10 shipping. Campers World part number is 74960.
The manufacturer is Lippert Components and their part number is 341500.
This step is exactly the same as OEM steps from Air Stream. Bolt holes match and installation took 15 minutes. Remove 4 bolts and the steps come off."
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03-02-2016, 09:14 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2012
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Suggest calling the factory to verify the mountings for the Classic weird folding aluminum step would also work with the standard steel step. Might save some shipping expense.
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03-03-2016, 07:30 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2015 28' Flying Cloud
Melbourne Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 43
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Step Replacement
My original post which detailed replacement steps should have included that the 25' Flying Cloud was a 2013 model. I had damaged the steps and bent them.
Was not easy to identify replacement steps as there are no dimensions or templates on the various websites. I removed the steps, 4 bolts and around 4 minutes labor, and was able to get accurate dimensions. I found replacement steps readily available and i ordered online at Camping World. Reattached steps using same bolts I removed.
If you go to a dealer it will cost you $300-400 to replace steps. Do it yourself for under $90.
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03-03-2016, 08:27 AM
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Rivet Master
1999 28' Excella
New Orleans
, Louisiana
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 883
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We put on steel steps because of full-timing. Our steel steps were put on by an AS dealer the aluminum steps were wider. They added stainless steel bands to decrease the width. They work great. Glad someone suggested steel.
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03-04-2016, 06:38 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 31' Classic
Garner,
, North Carolina
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,031
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good info.. when you say SS bands to decrease width you mean they put a "shim" in on both sides to make up the difference between steel steps width and mounting area on airstream width.. almost like putting a washer in there..
how thick would you say the SS bar is.. any pictures you can share.
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Originally Posted by badkat
We put on steel steps because of full-timing. Our steel steps were put on by an AS dealer the aluminum steps were wider. They added stainless steel bands to decrease the width. They work great. Glad someone suggested steel.
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2-24-16 got a 2005 Classic 31D 460 watts solar, lithium 230 AH, 16" LT's, pulled by:
2003 F-250 SD, CC, 7.3L PowerStroke
WBCCI#1691, Piedmont Airstream Club, Unit #161, Region #3
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