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Old 03-02-2016, 05:34 PM   #15
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different how.. wider, longer, 3 steps etc.. the 2005 classic 31 we are buying has a broken bottom of two steps and was looking at the camping world replacement steps. they seem to be a bit more able to handle the stress of everyday usage.

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They're all the same except for the Classic's which had different steps.
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Old 03-02-2016, 06:13 PM   #16
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Just quoting something I read earlier. And observation. But the mounting holes are most likely all the same. Probably industry standard.

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This is a copy from a Forum post in the past few months. I kept it in my file, sorry I can't give proper credit to the original author.

"I had to replace the steps on 25' Flying Cloud.
Did some research and the replacement steps were purchased from Campers World for $81 plus $10 shipping. Campers World part number is 74960.
The manufacturer is Lippert Components and their part number is 341500.
This step is exactly the same as OEM steps from Air Stream. Bolt holes match and installation took 15 minutes. Remove 4 bolts and the steps come off."
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Old 03-02-2016, 10:14 PM   #17
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Suggest calling the factory to verify the mountings for the Classic weird folding aluminum step would also work with the standard steel step. Might save some shipping expense.
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Old 03-03-2016, 08:30 AM   #18
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Step Replacement

My original post which detailed replacement steps should have included that the 25' Flying Cloud was a 2013 model. I had damaged the steps and bent them.
Was not easy to identify replacement steps as there are no dimensions or templates on the various websites. I removed the steps, 4 bolts and around 4 minutes labor, and was able to get accurate dimensions. I found replacement steps readily available and i ordered online at Camping World. Reattached steps using same bolts I removed.
If you go to a dealer it will cost you $300-400 to replace steps. Do it yourself for under $90.
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Old 03-03-2016, 09:27 AM   #19
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We put on steel steps because of full-timing. Our steel steps were put on by an AS dealer the aluminum steps were wider. They added stainless steel bands to decrease the width. They work great. Glad someone suggested steel.
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Old 03-04-2016, 07:38 AM   #20
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good info.. when you say SS bands to decrease width you mean they put a "shim" in on both sides to make up the difference between steel steps width and mounting area on airstream width.. almost like putting a washer in there..

how thick would you say the SS bar is.. any pictures you can share.



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We put on steel steps because of full-timing. Our steel steps were put on by an AS dealer the aluminum steps were wider. They added stainless steel bands to decrease the width. They work great. Glad someone suggested steel.
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Old 03-24-2016, 11:36 PM   #21
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Does anyone know here if the Pendleton model aluminum steps fit or bolt up to any Flying cloud?
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Old 03-25-2016, 05:21 AM   #22
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Does anyone know here if the Pendleton model aluminum steps fit or bolt up to any Flying cloud?
The Pendleton model is just a variant on the Classic - which used to be called an Excella in the 80's. If you go up a few posts an Excella owner traded his floppy aluminum steps for the steel ones and those had to be shimmed because the aluminum ones were wider.

Whether you could shim them the other way? You could call the factory and ask. Or perhaps if you go to a rally or Airstream park you could get permission to crawl under someone's classic and see how the steps are attached.

I've never thought of it before - but I am pretty certain the doors are the same width between a classic and any of the lower trim models. I have a "Home Sweet Home" grill on my screen door - and have seen the same thing on a friend's Classic. So the raw opening should be the same.

BTW those aluminum folders look cool, but they are "costalotta" items AND they have issues. They sag - and there's one very expensive (like $100) screw that is custom made, possibly with reversed threads that tends to work itself loose and fall out. Several people have made special braces to hold them steadier. And many classic owners, especially if they have balance issues either convert to the steel steps or use a freestanding stool just so they can keep on 'streaming. I am currently camped next to a man who has to use a walker and he and his wife just got an aluminum ramp for their moho to make life easier for him.
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