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06-03-2016, 03:02 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1989 29' Excella
2018 30' Classic
Cumming
, Georgia
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 229
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New Model Step Replacement
Hi,
So for the recent past few years Airstream swapped out their traditional folding steps for the black, (not so well made), steps except for the Classic.
I'm seeing the 2017's that Airstream has reintroduced the steps in most of the models, (above Sports).
So, for the years that have the, (not so well made), steps can they be retrofitted with the traditional steps that the 2017's and older models have?
If so, it's a DIY opportunity, dealer install or mothership?
thanks
Dave
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06-03-2016, 03:19 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 23' FB International
2007 19' International CCD
Steamboat Springs
, Colorado
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,020
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I replaced the flimsy single step on our Bambi with a nice Lippert aluminum double step. The holes underneath lined up, though I made support brackets to stiffen it up. This was a really nice upgrade. The steps are wide and smooth and the casing is much more substantial than the stock step.
I wanted to do the same on our 23FB however the bolt holes do not line up. The Lippert is 24" wide which is what the Bambi was and seems to be the industry standard.but the stock unit on the 23FB is just shy. its like the holes are about .25" off. This slight difference has complicated the installation of the new step on the 23FB. Not only do I have holes that are not aligned but I will have to trim about .25" off of the belly pan to make the Lippert fit.
I may have a professional do the install. I don't think I want to get involved with trimming the bellypan.
I would suggest you measure the existing step and the opening. The Lippert step is 24".
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06-03-2016, 10:06 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 23' International
La Habra
, California
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,019
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Davcarv on another thread it was noted that a retrofitted 2017 step would cost 1200 dollars
Steamy1 do you have a picture of your steps you'd like to share with us?
Thx
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06-04-2016, 09:29 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 23' FB International
2007 19' International CCD
Steamboat Springs
, Colorado
Join Date: Nov 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by subfan1
Davcarv on another thread it was noted that a retrofitted 2017 step would cost 1200 dollars
Steamy1 do you have a picture of your steps you'd like to share with us?
Thx
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Yes; will post tomorrow or Monday. Thanks
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06-05-2016, 07:10 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 23' FB International
2007 19' International CCD
Steamboat Springs
, Colorado
Join Date: Nov 2007
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06-05-2016, 10:30 AM
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3 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
jackson center
, Ohio
Join Date: Jan 2011
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Airstream service has a direct aluminum replacement step for the steel step. You remove the 4 bolts from steel step and replace with the aluminum step and reinstall the 4 bolts. I believe the retail cost is $499It has three adjustments depending on your terrain.
To add the classic step to a trailer that had the steel step you would have to drop the underbelly and replace two outriggers. A lot of labor involved.
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06-05-2016, 01:04 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2013 25' FB Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Colorado Springs
, Colorado
Join Date: Mar 2013
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[QUOTE=Schu;1802154]Airstream service has a direct aluminum replacement step for the steel step. You remove the 4 bolts from steel step and replace with the aluminum step and reinstall the 4 bolts. I believe the retail cost is $499It has three adjustments depending on your terrain.
Do you know what the Airstream Service Part Number is??
Thanks
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06-05-2016, 01:15 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 23' International
La Habra
, California
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,019
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And any pictures would be appreciated. Thx
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06-06-2016, 05:11 AM
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3 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
jackson center
, Ohio
Join Date: Jan 2011
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Can you send me your email? I can never get pics to upload here
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06-06-2016, 06:15 AM
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3 Rivet Member
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jackson center
, Ohio
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Part number is 380002 for Torklift Glo Step
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06-06-2016, 07:07 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 30' International
Vintage Kin Owner
Bad Axe
, Michigan
Join Date: Apr 2003
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We used two 24" X 9 1/2 pieces of aluminum boat dock steps ,worked fine.
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06-06-2016, 07:15 AM
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Overland Adventurer
1991 34' Excella
2009 34' Panamerica
Telluride
, Colorado
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 2,476
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Isn't Airstream using the Thule aluminum step on some models?
I wonder if its.less expensive outside the AS network? Ive seen one on a friends sob and it looked good!
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06-06-2016, 06:49 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2015 27' FB International
Currently Looking...
mesquite
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 105
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Steps
[QUOTE=davcarv;1801358]Hi,
So for the recent past few years Airstream swapped out their traditional folding steps for the black, (not so well made), steps except for the Classic.
I'm seeing the 2017's that Airstream has reintroduced the steps in most of the models, (above Sports).
So, for the years that have the, (not so well made), steps can they be retrofitted with the traditional steps that the 2017's and older models have?
If so, it's a DIY opportunity, dealer install or mothership?
thanks
Dave[/QUOTEjust spent week at factory and asked the same question.
Answer. Yes . If you have close to a grand to spend!
Replaced my black original steps at a little over 150.00 plus half hr.labor.
To do the aluminum one requires welding support brackets and cutting a slot for the aluminum ones to fit into plus other stuff.
They certainly look good. Go for it if you got the $!]
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07-11-2016, 01:53 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 23' International
La Habra
, California
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,019
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I sent Airstream an email regarding the new aluminum steps as I would like to remove my steel steps and Craig Weir with customer relations replied and said that the new step part number is 400962. I followed up and asked if it was a direct replacement and his response was "the step should bolt in where the old step is located". I'm going to look into this in the fall for our trailer. Thought I'd pass this along however.
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02-18-2020, 09:13 PM
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jeffndaile
2013 28' Flying Cloud
Clarkston
, Washington
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 147
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Quote:
Originally Posted by subfan1
I sent Airstream an email regarding the new aluminum steps as I would like to remove my steel steps and Craig Weir with customer relations replied and said that the new step part number is 400962. I followed up and asked if it was a direct replacement and his response was "the step should bolt in where the old step is located". I'm going to look into this in the fall for our trailer. Thought I'd pass this along however.
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Please give me an update as I’d like to do the same
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02-19-2020, 09:35 AM
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3 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
jackson center
, Ohio
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FYI to go from the bolt on steel steps to the current aluminum steps requires changing the outriggers for the aluminum step arms to slide in. The change is not just bolting on
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02-20-2020, 10:15 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 23' International
La Habra
, California
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffndaile
Please give me an update as I’d like to do the same
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Agree with shu below. It was not a easy bolt on step. I abandoned the idea due to cost.
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02-22-2020, 07:36 AM
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jeffndaile
2013 28' Flying Cloud
Clarkston
, Washington
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 147
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Quote:
Originally Posted by subfan1
Agree with shu below. It was not a easy bolt on step. I abandoned the idea due to cost.
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I think it’s Torklift for us then... a bit on the spendy side, but a good solid step.
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07-14-2020, 09:11 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2016 23' International
Los Altos
, California
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 169
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single or double step replacement
Hi, I see a few posts on this, but I have a 2016 19ft flying cloud Bambi with the original blacks steel step. I'm interested in replacing it with the single aluminum step that is used on later models. I'm seeing a lot of conflicting info on this and can't seem to get a clear answer on where to find the updated step and if it truly is a simple swap-out. (no holes to drill, etc)
Any help on this would be greatly appreciated..
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07-14-2020, 10:27 PM
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jeffndaile
2013 28' Flying Cloud
Clarkston
, Washington
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 147
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We had the same exact problem and was looking for the same exact fix as you. The single step that you’re talking about that comes on the newer units is made by Thule and is made overseas. They will not ship or sell to a private party. After spending literally months of research trying to find the solution that I wanted that made our trailer look like factory, I came up empty-handed.
The very next best solution is Torklift glow steps The bad thing is that kit that they sell that supposedly allows the steps to be mounted from the bolts on top instead of on the side will not work and you will have to use some heavy angle iron to make your own brackets, it took me about two hours to fit mine perfectly and I couldn’t be happier.
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