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Old 04-23-2018, 08:48 AM   #1
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Walbernize vs. Other off the shelf spray waxes

Was going to order a bottle of Walbernize but was walking thru Wal Mart and an auto parts store over the weekend and couldn't believe how many spray waxes are on the market now. Anyone using any of these spray waxes that you can pick up locally with good results?
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I have McGuire’s Ultimate for years on our Airstream.
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Old 04-24-2018, 07:10 AM   #3
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Another member has used turtle wax "ice"
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Old 04-24-2018, 07:39 AM   #4
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WAX you say. 😂

We use Griot's, easy on/off & lasts really well. The wash soap & mop on a pole...(no scratching), also work well.👍

I use the spray wax on both the AS & Boat as a touch-up with excellent results.

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Walbernize

Yeah, I have the McGuires Ultimate, I use it some. Its good on plastic headlights, protects them very well.
I like the spray Eagle nano wax, its very good. It doesn't put swirl marks on the AS. I like Walbernize, its good too. Old school wax, when you have time. If you spot clean, I use the Eagle nano, or the 'Mother's spray wax. Like you said there are many products. I don't know if you can go wrong with any of them.
My Uncle had a Scotty camper back in the 1960's & 70's and always used walbernize.
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We use Lucas "slick mist" after washing the trailer. Easy on and off, water always beads up.
The application seems to last a long time.
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Old 04-24-2018, 10:03 AM   #7
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Walbernize

Airstream recommends Walbernize because it treats and conditions the coating that Alcoa applies to the aluminum and will keep it from flaking off as the surface ages. Wax is just wax and coats the surface according to the dealers.
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Airstream recommends Walbernize because it treats and conditions the coating that Alcoa applies to the aluminum and will keep it from flaking off as the surface ages. Wax is just wax and coats the surface according to the dealers.
Actually the the aluminum skin has a clear coat applied to it just like a car.
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Use only Walbernizer!! The coating that Alcoa applies is called "plasticoat" it is nothing like automotive clear coat and only Walbernizer will maintain its appearance. Using Automotive wax products will speed up the deterioration process and you will have transparent flaking like we have seen on other posts here. I use "Wally" every 2 months by spraying it on and wiping it off, and every winter I "Wally" the whole AS with a polisher. Nothing protects an Airstream better than Walbernizer!
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Walbernize works well easy on and off, I like to use what manufacture recommends. Had to order online, ordered two.
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Use only Walbernizer!! The coating that Alcoa applies is called "plasticoat" it is nothing like automotive clear coat and only Walbernizer will maintain its appearance. Using Automotive wax products will speed up the deterioration process and you will have transparent flaking like we have seen on other posts here. I use "Wally" every 2 months by spraying it on and wiping it off, and every winter I "Wally" the whole AS with a polisher. Nothing protects an Airstream better than Walbernizer!

Please know of which you speak...a polymer wax or sealant will in no way damage the polymer based 'plasticoat' that Alcoa developed.

Many steps have been taken since the WalberStuff was developed.👍


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I guess your way ahead of Airstream, because they still recommend Walbernize!
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Please know of which you speak...a polymer wax or sealant will in no way damage the polymer based 'plasticoat' that Alcoa developed.

Many steps have been taken since the WalberStuff was developed.👍


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Please read the words that I have used, damage? no, deteriorate yes!
It has been some time since Walbernizer was created, but it was created in conjunction with Alcoa specifically for the coating on the aluminum sheets which are still manufactured today using the same process.

Modern vehicle wash/wax/protectants are formulated for modern clear coats and not for Airstream aluminum.

The bottom line is use whatever product makes you feel all fuzzy inside, I will keep using Walbernizer til I die!
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Please read the words that I have used, damage? no, deteriorate yes!
It has been some time since Walbernizer was created, but it was created in conjunction with Alcoa specifically for the coating on the aluminum sheets which are still manufactured today using the same process.

Modern vehicle wash/wax/protectants are formulated for modern clear coats and not for Airstream aluminum.

The bottom line is use whatever product makes you feel all fuzzy inside, I will keep using Walbernizer til I die!
Hmmm. IMO once something begins to deteriorate it's damaged and it's simply going to get worse over time.

I use both Walbernizer when I have the energizer bunny going and ICE spray detailer for spot use on water spots when the battery runs low.(read that as when I get lazy). Should ICE "begin to show" any visible deterioration, I'll stop the practice.
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Have been using NuFinish since factory new. Airstream skin is slick as snot for months.
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Walbernize

I say Walbernize! Ez on Ez off = Great long lasting shine and protection.
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Please read the words that I have used, damage? no, deteriorate yes!
It has been some time since Walbernizer was created, but it was created in conjunction with Alcoa specifically for the coating on the aluminum sheets which are still manufactured today using the same process.

Modern vehicle wash/wax/protectants are formulated for modern clear coats and not for Airstream aluminum.

The bottom line is use whatever product makes you feel all fuzzy inside, I will keep using Walbernizer til I die!

OK smarty pants... explain to this dumbo how a polymer based wax or sealant can deteriorate the polymer bound coating that Alcoa uses without damaging the polymer bound coating that Alcoa uses.

Please read the words I have wrote....
Polymers have been used as a binder in auto paints for quite awhile. The same type polymer resins used by Alcoa.
Very similar to the binding resins used in many of todays car care products.

NuFinish

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X2 on the NuFinish.
Agreed, slick as snot for a long time.
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Interesting set of ideas here.
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Use only Walbernizer!! The coating that Alcoa applies is called "plasticoat" it is nothing like automotive clear coat and only Walbernizer will maintain its appearance. Using Automotive wax products will speed up the deterioration process and you will have transparent flaking like we have seen on other posts here. I use "Wally" every 2 months by spraying it on and wiping it off, and every winter I "Wally" the whole AS with a polisher. Nothing protects an Airstream better than Walbernizer!


Actually in more recent years Alcoa started using clear coat that they invented for coating automobile trim.This is the clear coat that is applied to the aluminum prior to installation on your new Airstream.
Walbernizer was developed for Vintage Airstream plasticoat which was applied prior to EPA restrictions.
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