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06-05-2009, 09:01 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1973 Argosy 22
Pleasant Garden
, North Carolina
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 23
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Strippers!
Hey All,
Now that I have your undivided attn I need to know bout the best strippers ........not the female kind, the paint kind.Just trying to strip the paint of the ol arggy. Looking for most bestist and cheapist Thanks for any help!
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06-05-2009, 09:26 AM
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Rivet Master
1973 23' Safari
1977 23' Safari
2018 25' Flying Cloud
Palmer Lake
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 4,092
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on the blogs this morning someone said that "removall" from Vinatage Trailer Supply works great, is green.
got my attention because it was titled "I couldn't be a stripper." I thought it might be an ugly member who wouldn't get tips...
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Originally Posted by critter
Hey All,
Now that I have your undivided attn I need to know bout the best strippers ........not the female kind, the paint kind.Just trying to strip the paint of the ol arggy. Looking for most bestist and cheapist Thanks for any help!
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06-05-2009, 09:38 AM
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Just an old timer...
2004 22' Interstate
Tipton
, Iowa
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,759
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I am SO disappointed in the actual content of this thread after the title held SO much promise...
Roger
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AIR 2053 Current: 2004 Airstream Interstate "B-Van" T1N DODGE Sprinter
Former Airstreams: 1953 Flying Cloud, 1957 Overlander, 1961 Bambi, 1970 Safari Special, 1978 Argosy Minuet, 1985 325 Moho, 1994 Limited 34' Two-door, 1994 B190 "B-Van"
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06-05-2009, 09:42 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 26' Cruiser/Overlander
Kennewick
, Washington
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,884
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I second that!
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06-05-2009, 09:50 AM
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More than one rivet loose
Currently Looking...
Los Alamos
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,756
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Anything that comes in gel form and has lost of nasty un-pronounceable names.
If it says use in a well ventilated area you are one the right track. Aircraft grade strippers may be a good place to go. You can usually get those in 5 Gallon quantities.
Any type of mechanical stripping will likely buckle the sheet metal.
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Sarah, Snowball
Looking for a 1962 Flying Cloud
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06-05-2009, 10:09 AM
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Rivet Master
1959 26' Overlander
Nowhere
, Washington
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 573
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I have a fair amount of current experience with this topic. I've been using Removall to strip a coat of white paint from the top of my 59 Overlander as well as a clear coat from the lower panels. It has worked very well on the paint.
I initially thought it was working quite well on the clear coat also, but after I thought I was finished and began polishing, it appears the two applications of Removall may not have removed the entire clear coat (either that or I just have not mastered the polishing technique yet). I'm still getting what others have described as the "blotchy sunburn" effect that leads me to believe some of the clear coat is still present.
I bought an initial one gallon supply of Removall from VTS and brushed it on. I soon found that using an airless sprayer to apply the product, followed by a pressure washer after letting it work overnight, is the most effective method. The brush on application uses much more of the product with less effect. I bought a 5 gallon supply of the Removall 210 (designed to be sprayed) from ICI paints for the same cost as VTS; about $210 (but no shippping charges). I've used about 3 gallons and have managed to remove 99% of the paint from the roof of the trailer and hopefully quite a bit of the clear coat also.
A friend of mine recently used a can of Klean Strip (a much heavier duty and more toxic stripper) to remove old WBCCI stickers and numbers and it was extremely effective. I'm planning to test that this weekend on some stuborn areas of paint that I was unable to hit with the Removall and the pressure washer. I'll also test that on a section of the clear coated pannels to see if it takes any more clear coat off.
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06-10-2009, 01:37 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1973 Argosy 22
Pleasant Garden
, North Carolina
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 23
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Hey Guys,
I went to the home supply store and found CROWN paint stripper for vertical surfaces and bought a gal to try.After 3 coats im starting to see some bare metal but not much.It looks like itll take sevral more coats.it seems to bubble the paint only where its relly thick.
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06-16-2009, 07:17 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1979 Argosy 27
1969 21' Globetrotter
1953 25' Cruiser
Front Royal
, Virginia
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 407
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OK, I have been dealing with this for the past two weeks. I have stripped my Argosy (well hope to finish tomorrow.) I tried to order Removall but it did not get shipped in time. So I tried a bunch of stuff from Lowes, Home Depot and anywhere that sold something.
I hear Air craft stripper by KleenStrip works well. I could only find the fast and heavy duty KleenStrip gel. This worked OK but not great, I had to put a lot of coats on. This stuff was good near plastic it did not hurt it.
Next was Stripezze. TOTAL GARBAGE did not work well at all. You had to pore it on before anything would happen.
The best stuff that worked for me was Jasco Professional at Lowes $30 gallon. WARNING: get thick gloves and wear 2 layers. This stuff ate right though my heavy duty cotton lined chemical gloves. It will burn through and scar any plastic. I have to replace all the light covers now. (Because I am too impatient to tape anything) I also have burn marks all over my body from doing it in shorts and flip flops.
It took about 7 gallons to do the whole trailer. But it would have been less if I just started with the Jasco. I wish I had ordered the removall in the first place. It is enviro friendly and does not burn. I hear ICI Paints carried hydrostrip and it is the same thing as Removall.
HINT: buy a lot of plastic scrappers because the Jasco eats through them. I found the cheap ones for dry wall worked best and you could resharpen them with sand paper. Also lots of old towels or terry clothe towels. After you get the big paint off reapply the Jasco and use a towel to get off all the little specks and film that is left behind.
Good luck
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06-16-2009, 07:53 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1965 22' Safari
Staunton
, Virginia
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 71
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The Removall worked great on my clearcoat- I used the brush-on (thicker) type. The clearcoat just wrinkled up and almost fell off on its own. You have to brush it on very thick- about a gallon and a half took care of my 22' Safari. None of the citrus based ones ever seemed to do anything, and I called every manufacturer I could find to ask about their product. My issue was that the only spot I had to do the work was in the driveway of a pretty neighborhood- I didn't want to throw nasty chemicals all over the nice green grass, and I didn't like the idea of potential nervous systems damage through skin absorbtion. Every manufacturer said "oh, you can't just let the product fall on the ground (or for the water-soluble ones, wash onto the ground), you have to collect it and take it to a proper disposal facility". Of course, nobody really does this, but if you suddenly lose the ability to use vowels, they can say "We told you so". Also, turning the in-laws lawn into a superfund site didn't appeal to me.
Napier was the only company with a different answer- they said that the most dangerous thing that will come off will be the paint you are removing. The only semi-nasty thing in it is hydrogen peroxide, so if you didn't use gloves, there is the possibility that you could end up looking like a mime. The other fun thing was that when I did this back in 2003, Napier hadn't officially started selling the brush-on product- they hadn't even named it yet. I called them in Vancouver, and they sent the stuff to me for free and asked me to write an account of the project. Not sure if they would go for that anymore.
So... in my opinion, the Napier stuff works almost as well as the really nasty stuff, but it also won't kill you. This, to me, is a plus.
Brad
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06-27-2009, 12:46 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1979 31' Sovereign
westfield
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 24
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Ok strippers, another question for you! Have removall on the trailer as I type, but hesitated to apply it between the blue and red decals that, while they are cracked, I am not removing. Is the removeall harmful to the decals? Will just taping them with painters tape be enough to protect them while I apply the removall between the decals? Thanks!
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06-27-2009, 01:33 PM
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Rivet Master
1959 26' Overlander
Nowhere
, Washington
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 573
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The removall took my WBCCI stickers off very easily, so I think they will probably remove other decals. I used blue tape to cover my badges and that worked well as long as I pulled the blue tape shortly after applying the stripper. If you don't I think it will eat through the blue tape and start working on whatever is underneath.
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06-28-2009, 08:45 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1973 Argosy 22
Pleasant Garden
, North Carolina
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 23
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Hey All,
I tried 3 different kinds of stripper on my argy,the one from lowes that didnt do much and cost bout 22 bucks,the one from wall mart that did a little better for 23 bucks then the aircraft stripper from the auto pint store for 43 bucks and it worked great.I guess you get what you pay for huh!
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06-30-2009, 11:50 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1979 31' Sovereign
westfield
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 24
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Am almost done with with the strip.....tease seems to be the word! I keep thinking I'm done and then.... First coat took 98% I"m still horsing around with little spots here and there with a small artist brush. The skirt took a couple go arounds as it had alot of surface dirt blended in. Remove-all did it for me, a bit of a mess in the driveway! Just shy of a gallon on a 31 footer with half the clear coat gone already. Not a bad investment.
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06-30-2009, 02:39 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2008 16' Safari
Destrehan
, Louisiana
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 395
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Any stripper with a lot of methylene chloride will do a great jod. Too bad this stuff is on the EPA list of "bad" chemicals. There are some good aircraft strippers out there at about $140.00 a gallon. You might want to look at MTC's EFS-2500.
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06-30-2009, 04:41 PM
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Liberator
1972 Argosy 24
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Heart of Dixie
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,659
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Use you head
I'll help...
Going along with this theam of chemicals...
I found a way to get the sticky film off the interior walls.
Cheap 'brake cleaner', from Wal Mart.
Took about 6 cans, but at last it is smooth and nice to touch.
It has been a few weeks, and is still smooth.
Careful around any lables as it will remove them in one wipe.
Just in time for this weekend...
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1989 Airstream 345 Liberator...
1972 Argosy 24'...
1954 Feathercraft Vagabond
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06-30-2009, 05:53 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1979 Argosy 27
1969 21' Globetrotter
1953 25' Cruiser
Front Royal
, Virginia
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 407
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Critter,
hang in there. I just finish the first cut of polish today. It is not prefect but I realy like how it turned out. Next step painting the caps.
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07-01-2009, 05:33 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1979 31' Sovereign
westfield
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 24
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Critter I think she looks great! You're a step ahead of me! I went to my propane tanks first to try my hand at the polishes and my new toy the cyclopolisher. OMG it's amazing! Rain today here up north so I'll have to work inside and leave the skin for Friday. I may get too tired this year for perfection and save it for the Spring. Thanks so much klatu for the tip on the sticky ceiling! Have been wondering for years how to get rid of that. I only wonder now what I'll use for bug control? Hah!
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05-06-2013, 08:10 AM
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2 Rivet Member
Jenaz, Switzerland
, Graubunden
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 38
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Good thread..I'm looking for the European equivalent of removeall if anyone has a tip? Cheers up
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05-09-2013, 10:50 AM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
Lexington
, Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,982
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Apparently, we can't get Removall anymore in the states. We just ordered the stuff VTS is now selling as a replacement: has good reviews on their website. We tried an experiment with several different environmentally friendly strippers and this is what we found: Soy based stripper from Rockler worked well but took awhile (hour or so) and is somewhat labor intensive in that you have to scrape and scrub it off. Readystrip from Menards works even slower and not nearly as well. Dries up easily on the trailer and has to be re-wet to scrape off. More labor intensive. Another citris based stripper from Menards, Magic Strip citrus-Action was about the same but stayed wet longer. Citristrip, which we've read good reviews on the forums about, was about the same as the others. We want something quicker and easier! SO, we're going with the brush-on airplane style stripper. Chris had a small spray can and the clearcoat we tried it on wrinkled off in about 5 minutes.
So maybe you could try a few different ones you can access there, Uppla, to experiment with.
Kay
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04-30-2015, 02:10 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1973 23' Safari
Calgary
, Alberta
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 8
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Efs-2500
Saw the mention of Molecular Tech Canada's EFS-2500 in this thread, but no others dealing with removing clear coat.
Seems like a comparable alternative to removall / now PPG AEROSPACE PR-5044 PEROXIDE-ACTIVATED STRIPPER, although it doesn't look like it's peroxide-based.
Wondering if anyone has tried this stuff? CAD 280/5 gallons (~230 USD) + shipping makes it a little cheaper than PR-5044, pretty reassuring safety data and looks to be safe for aluminum.
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