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Old 03-01-2008, 08:33 PM   #15
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Prep work is WORK!
Spraying on the clear plasti-coat (sue me) will take 15 to 30 minutes.

Thinking here...
Most any clear top coat from an auto story would work with correct prep.
Wonder if you could add the flex agent to clear like they use on bumpers....hummmm
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Old 03-01-2008, 08:37 PM   #16
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...Most any clear top coat from an auto story would work with correct prep...Wonder if you could add the flex agent to clear like they use on bumpers....hummmm
oh boy, prepare for a frantic peeled banana reply!

duck and cover for the sermon on frosting...

i just wanna know who makes the friggin' cake mix...

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Old 03-01-2008, 10:04 PM   #17
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Old 03-02-2008, 06:04 PM   #18
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Prep work is WORK!
Spraying on the clear plasti-coat (sue me) will take 15 to 30 minutes.

Thinking here...
Most any clear top coat from an auto story would work with correct prep.
Wonder if you could add the flex agent to clear like they use on bumpers....hummmm
Hey there klattu,
A couple years ago I tried two different brands (PPG, Dupont) of an automotive type clear coat to cover an aluminum banner we use at boat shows. It looked good, but shortly after we were done, it started to release and pop off. I didn't try a flex agent, but as far as I know, it won't stick unless you have a propper primer coat, and that shoots down being able to see the aluminum finish.
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Old 06-07-2008, 05:25 AM   #19
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What would you suggest to touch up a peeling spot on the front of my 97 Safari? It's about 10"x12", just above the Airstream name, on the curve of the roof line. Would appreciate your input!
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Old 08-25-2008, 03:33 PM   #20
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Without starting another sparring match, I have never really received a clear answer to the question; what is the worst that can happen to the skin if your clear/plasti/coat/kote/koat is failing?
Our 89í is pretty bald on top, refinishing is obviously an expensive endeavor. If we let this go indefinitely are we doing any real damage?
I wash frequently, and wax once/twice per season, but am I being penny wise and dollar foolish by not repairing our hairline a.s.a.p.? Should we rush off to Sy Spearling?
Does it just look bad (which we can live with for now)?
Or is damage being done?
Once the surface oxidizes is there real structural damage that may be happening that I am not aware of?

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Old 08-25-2008, 03:50 PM   #21
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Painting an airstream

Not too long a go I had a 28ft anodized Avion painted silver as the anodizing had weathered too badly to refinish.Cost about $2k

Had it done in Duncan on Vancouver Island and the results were astonishing.Looked like a new trailer and wiill last for decades.

This is what I will do with my 29er when the time comes and then there will be no further Plasicoat,Clearcoat issues every few years.

Some purists may say that this is defacing an airstream--so to them I say--I'll do it my way and relax--you do it your way and watch the stuff fall off every few years.
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...Once the surface oxidizes is there real structural damage that may be happening that I am not aware of?...
hi bill

i think your rational is right on the skin side, peeling clearcoat isn't a significant risk to the shell.

my concern over nearly 25 years with ONE 'stream was NOT the skin primarily.

it was gaskets, seals, window fittings/trim and so on.

most of the plastic, rubber and other exterior bits DO lose their original fit and begin to malfunction.

so water leaks, and crud leaks and so on do eventually effect the structure.

we can use acryl-r or other sealants in many places

but keeping up the little bits and gaskets seems MORE important than the original PLASTICOAT/KOTE...

although doing this gasket/window seal work doesn't look much like a new hair doo...

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shikari'....

there are a LOT of threads on PAINTING streams here.

even factory NEW units have had paint some years and so did the argosy line...

paint can LOOK GREAT, but gaskets and seals still need attention.
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Old 08-25-2008, 04:38 PM   #23
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oh boy, prepare for a frantic peeled banana reply!

duck and cover for the sermon on frosting...

i just wanna know who makes the friggin' cake mix...

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My question here is (while I wait for my subfloor sealer to dry) Is if the clear coat or whatever we are calling it came off once, why would you want to put it on again... Won't it just come off again???.. Wouldn't it be better to strip it and put some kind of wax on the aluminum???

Just wondering.....
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My question here is (while I wait for my subfloor sealer to dry) Is if the clear coat or whatever we are calling it came off once, why would you want to put it on again... Won't it just come off again???.. Wouldn't it be better to strip it and put some kind of wax on the aluminum???

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Exaclty what I did here, post 493


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Old 08-25-2008, 05:06 PM   #26
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My question here is (while I wait for my subfloor sealer to dry) Is if the clear coat or whatever we are calling it came off once, why would you want to put it on again... Won't it just come off again???.. Wouldn't it be better to strip it and put some kind of wax on the aluminum???

Just wondering.....
Plasticoat is good for about 5 years.

Then it needs to be replasticoated.

Wax lasts maybe 6 months, if done properly, and then it's gone too.

So, why wax at all?

Painting the trailer metallic silver, lasts far longer, like 20 to 25 years, if done properly.

So why plasticoat? Why wax?

Why not metallic silver.

Painting a house is not permanent either.

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Good point, So no matter what you do you are in for some work.... man... What have I got myself into...

Maybe i just leave the outside looking old and the inside new (less work, and more time for camping) Thats the why I want it...

So if you buff it out and spend all that time and don't clear coat it, HOW LONG TILL YOU HAVE TO BUFF IT AGAIN!!!!!
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Good point, So no matter what you do you are in for some work.... man... What have I got myself into...

Maybe i just leave the outside looking old and the inside new (less work, and more time for camping) Thats the why I want it...

So if you buff it out and spend all that time and don't clear coat it, HOW LONG TILL YOU HAVE TO BUFF IT AGAIN!!!!!
Good thought, but wrong again.

The exterior of your Airstream requires work.

You must decide what you want to do.

If you polish it, since the aluminum is alclad, you "MUST": keep it waxes, not sort of or maybe, "BUT" waxed.

If you wax the raw metal, then if you don't travel very far with it, like near salt water, then you should wash and wax it every month. If your near salt water, then wash and wax every week.

So buffing the trailer is at least monthly work, namely wash and wax.

Plasticoating is every 5 years or so, and a wax job once a year where your at.

Metallic silver, lasts 20 to 30 years, and like a car should be waxed every 6 months.

OR. you can go to K-mart, buy the darkest sunglasses they have, and the problem is gone.

Seriously, you cannot leave alclad aluminun bare. The elements in the air that we breathe, will attack it, usually in short order.

But on the positive side, taking care of your Airstream, will usually keep you close to the house.

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