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Old 03-26-2011, 07:53 AM   #1
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Polish a 1984?

I have a 1984 Sovereign. Been reading a lot of posts about stripping and polishing. (all of which sound like lots of fun!) But I was curious as to whether my 84 would strip and polish to the mirror finish as do the older models? I thought I heard somewhere that they changed the formulas in the Aluminum manufacturing process at some point and thus the newer ones do not shine up the same way.
True or false?
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True....and false.

The aluminum is different, it has a milled finish and is not Alclad like the older trailers. In laymen's terms...Alclad is a thin layer of more pure aluminum alloy which is what they use on airplanes - someone else will have to provide the technical data on what kind of aluminum is actually is. BUT, with lots of extra effort (or heavy-duty professional equipment) it can be polished. The extra effort comes from having to remove that milled finish. Knowing first hand the amount of time & energy it takes to polish two vintage "shorties" - there is no way I would take on a '84 Sovereign. Although, they do look spectacular when done! I saw a 199? Norman Rockwell 34' wide-body that was professionally polished and it was B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L! It would be a ginormous undertaking - not one I would call "fun" though...

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well that makes it an easy decision for me! I do have some sunburn on top so do I need to go to a shop for a new clearcoat or is that a do at home? Thanks so much for the help.
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Old 03-26-2011, 09:30 AM   #4
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85 Polished

Greetings,
The polishing can be done, check out this 85-- I polished a couple of years ago...here:

1985 Sovereign 25' - Southern Antique

Also check out my video and polishing instructions on my web site here:

Polishing Instructions - Southern Antique

Hope this helps...

Enjoy the Shine!

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Your best results to re-clearcoat it would be to have it professionally done. Then maintain it by washing/waxing regularly and parking it indoors. Another option would be to strip it and just let the aluminum oxidize evenly. When the clearcoat fails, the unprotected areas start to oxidize, then more clearcoat fails and it also starts to oxidize - but it ends up looking splotchy because some areas of aluminum are exposed longer than other areas. Also, failing clearcoat tends to look milky white...if you strip it off, you will probably find the aluminum underneath is still somewhat shiny. If you strip all the clearcoat off, then it just gradually dulls, but it's even - so it looks better IMO. Waxing it and parking indoors will slow the oxidation process down...but it won't stop it.

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Shari,

That's what I want to do to Henri this summer, strip his ratty-looking clearcoat off.

I was also thinking of getting (buying, borrowing) a whomping big polisher and doing a polishing job, but nothing like the mirror-finish type. Just bring it back to something like when it was new, something I could re-do every few years. I have a bad rotator cuff, so no way of doing the mirrorjob on Henri, he's toooo long!

Have you ever tried that,or seen someone's TT that has?
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well, the clearcoat will come off with some zip strip semi paste paint remover. Bubble right up, just don't get it near the plastics like taillights covers etc -- or your self... I am not sure what year they stopped applying or using alclad aluminum. I do know that the older models with the alclad are coated both outside and inside. I bet a 84' does not have alclad, so one would never be able to get the mirror quality polish.
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Yes, if the clearcoat is caught early enough, before major patches of oxidation has set in - just stripping it looks great! I haven't seen anybody to a partial polish that looks "great" though...it's really hard to get an even finish. They tend to have parts that are mirror shined and parts that are not so it tends to look splotch - kinda looking like grey clouds or like they were going for a mirror and didn't get there..

Another couple of successful alternatives to maintaining a mirror finish I've seen are:
  • win the lotto > pay somebody to polish it for you
  • fully polish it once...then let it re-oxidize evenly
  • soda blasting
  • light walnut shell blasting
  • then there is painting it...

Even if it is re-clearcoated, it will have to be maintained & re-done every 5-7 years or so, if left out to weather outdoors - the sun is brutal.

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Thanks all. My wife has decided "We will make the inside shine instead". (-: But stripping everything seems like a good option. Also, I live on the gulf coast...hot sun and salt year round. Maybe what I should really be doing is building a barn.

But I really like the "win the lotto " suggestion. I'll get right on that...
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Your 84 polished is a work of art....an Airstream should be in the Simthsonian....

Gotta know, how many hours did it take you to polish it?
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Thanks Spegr but my 1984 is not polished. It was clean when the pic was taken and the sun was juuussst right. But LEVON in one of th posts above has a 1985 that is polished. It does look great!
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Hi,

I'd learn a little bit more about the protection of the polished skin.
As far as I understand clear coating needs to be done professionally which means to me sprayed. However this is obviously the most expensive way.

Are there other than regular repolishing which can be done do-it-yourself with not too much efforts?

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